Our Republic and Our Free Republic

9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

[BADJOE]

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?

[FreedominJesusChrist]

I was using the term rather loosely. And I was referring to school financing, which is the only financial concern I have at the moment.

I adore my parents and I am best friends with both my mom and my dad. I can talk to them about anything.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Yes...but I already declared myself the winner...MUD"

What?? Am I already being stripped of my self professed win?? I PROTEST!!!!

[technochick99]

And you state this from the standpoint of the unsurpassed personal level of success that your life is, correct?

OPH, you must admit this is a very unfair statement to make. FWIW, I have no idea about Askel's life, and only know her through some threads.

Quite frankly, I disagree with her on a lot issues. But, I would never make such a statement to someone like that. You never know how many other people you are unwittingly insulting; how many other people will feel that you would treat them the same way. We all judge success differently.

[Howlin]

You don't comprehend the English language, do you?

Nobody CARES about you or your personal life; we are only concerned with your LIES on this forum.

[Cyber Liberty]

Careful, dear...you're starting to sound human....

;^)

[Cyber Liberty]

Was that a suck-up by proxy?

[tomkat]

an OUTSTANDING beastie !  

[FreedominJesusChrist]

Sure Howlin, then stop asking me questions.

[tpaine]

Innuendo is the only way you can speak 'freely' on FR about certain subjects, as we ALL well know.
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Certainly nobody would ever be allowed to post a thread suggesting that Jim and FR have been "bought by the GOP behind the scenes"...
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Yep, and suggesting that is innuendo, right? -- Thanks for your du-duh-display.

[Howlin]

It was a piggyback hominy!

[Constitution Day]

That reminds me of:

BUGS: (Singing.)

Grab a fence post, hold it tight,
Womp your partner with all your might.
Hit him in the shin, hit him in the head,
Hit him again, the critter ain't dead.
Wop him low and wop him high,
Stick your finger in his eye.
Pretty little rhythm, pretty little sound,
Bang your heads against the ground.

(Bugs continues to fiddle away.)

BUGS: (Singing.)

Promenade all around the room,
Promenade like a bride and groom.

(Bugs leads the boys to a hay baler machine. He opens a door in the machine for them to enter.)

BUGS: (Singing.)

Open up the door and step right in,
Close the door and into a spin.
Whirl, whirl, twist and twirl,

(Bugs throws a switch, turning on the baler.)

BUGS: (Singing.)

Jump all around like a flyin' squirrel.
Now don't you cuss and don't you swear,
Just come right out and form a square.

[tomkat]

... snot that is streaming down my face ..

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

fofl !

[Mudboy Slim]

"JR used to think the Bush family was involved in drug-running..."

"Huh?!? What?!? Maybe I haven't been around that long, but can you provide me with any substantive to this assertion?"

LOL...I can. JimRob used to believe that Bush, Sr. was cognizant and dismissive of the Mena drug-running...then again, he used to be a big fan of Pat Buchanan (back before I was 100% behind Steve Forbes...LOL!!)

FReegards...MUD

BTW...I'd still like to see Forbes as Dubyuh's Secretary of the Treasury during his second term.

[Howlin]

I didn't ask you anything; you butted into a discussion I was having with two other Freepers. The whole world does not revolve around you.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

*Sigh*

Since deport is not here, I am clocking out for the day.

Have a nice day.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

sowwy!!! :o)

[Mudboy Slim]

"Would anyone want the political equivalent of John Gotti in the White House tonight?"

Nope...we survived eight years of Slick Willie and I don't wanna go back there again!!

FReegards...MUD

[Howlin]

I'd really like it if somebody could post a thread with what this thread is REAlLY about.

Why does Joe think that he's Paul Revere or something, riding to tell us all "the real truth" about what's going on at FR.

[dubyagee]

The judges may have cheated. A medal may have to be awarded to both of you...(Or is that all three?)

[Interesting Times]

*** Certainly nobody would ever be allowed to post a thread suggesting that Jim and FR have been "bought by the GOP behind the scenes"... ***

Yep, and suggesting that is innuendo, right? -- Thanks for your du-duh-display.

No, that was sarcasm.

Online dictionaries are available to help out with this sort of thing...