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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: strela
AND THE WINNER IS....

drum roll please ..

500 posted on 9/6/02 2:04 PM Eastern by strela
521 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:24 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: strela; abner; Bob J
2:04 PM EST...I guess my 2:08 prediction wins the pot...LOL!!

What do I win?! Something to go with my Vote-A-Matic, perhaps?!

FReegards...MUD

522 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:26 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: paulklenk
Yeah, I did. A funny place, that.
523 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:33 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: OneidaM
I think you mean Sirry, but I can live with Rirry, too! LOL!
524 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:36 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: tomkat
well if you insist...


525 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:50 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: technochick99
Then who broke their word?

I don't see a thread like this posted from Jim, do you?

Perhaps, if this is he true belief

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government. At least that is how I have always felt about it"

it's no wonder Joe's not happy here.

For whatever reason, Joe feels compelled to deliver these edicts to us on a weekly basis, like it's a matter of life and death to this forum.

526 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: OneidaM; paulklenk; All
I WON I WON I WON.. I just want to thank everyone for their support. This means so much to me.. I'm ,.. I'm (wiping away snot that is streaming down my face,.. this is just so emotional)

I'm sooooo touched. Thank you.. Thank you all. You like me.. you REALLY REALLY LIKE ME!!!
527 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:51 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Constitution Day
It is indeed. Even sadder is the fact that both sides seem to have the exact same problem.
528 posted on 09/06/2002 11:08:54 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: Mudboy Slim
The fact is that the Democratic Party is a Mafia now, no different from John Gotti's Mafia.

Would anyone want the political equivalent of John Gotti in the White House tonight?
529 posted on 09/06/2002 11:09:16 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Constitution Day
Stainlessbanner thirsty! Hmmmm
530 posted on 09/06/2002 11:09:40 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: strela
500!

Wow! Good timing!

531 posted on 09/06/2002 11:10:01 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Deals with your parents? What a revolting relationship. If you talk to your parents the way you talk to the other adults around here, I'm surprised you can even afford a thong.
532 posted on 09/06/2002 11:10:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mudboy Slim
What do I win?!

Free trip to Richmond with free subway passes.

533 posted on 09/06/2002 11:10:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: strela
"I was 55 minutes too conservative. Oh well, better too conservative than too liberal ;)"

Amen!!

Well, that was the most fun I've had on FR for a long time. :o)

534 posted on 09/06/2002 11:11:38 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Joe Driscoll
"Am I logged on?"

Yes...but I already declared myself the winner...MUD

535 posted on 09/06/2002 11:12:14 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: paulklenk
I know i wanna go home..hehehe..longest day.
536 posted on 09/06/2002 11:12:24 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Admin Moderator
I thought this might be a good time to make my first entrance in this thread to say:

I LOVE YOU GUYS AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB! THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO. IT *IS* NOTICED AND APPRECIATED.
537 posted on 09/06/2002 11:12:24 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: unsycophant
I will be sure to use the appropriate terminology from now on when referring to the banned v. the timed-out.

Sorry if I sounded snippy .. it's just that I have seen some folks blow this way out ..

538 posted on 09/06/2002 11:12:44 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Interesting Times
Bizarre ... I'm finally reading my Tolkein and plan on getting to the Two Towers this weekend during a taping session tomorrow with a dulcimer player friend of mine.

I suspect you (like so many others) may be mistaking my confidence in Truth (both the universal sort, such as "every human life begins at conception" or the factual sort, such as "abortion is a GOP policy") for an insipid and somehow aggrandizing Self-confidence which I do not and probably never will have. Painfully shy most of my life, actually.

(Besides, OPH can fill you in on my lousy ability to be self-serving and make something of myself. Doesn't add up I'd be holding myself out as some be-all, end-all answer for others. =)

I can tell you right now that this Grima chick and I little, if anything, in common ... despite your alacrity with numerology I've duly noted.

I do try to assist any and all when asked but -- in principle and as a rule -- I prefer to see folks help themselves and, above all, place their faith in God not men ... much less magic women who can "do it all".

539 posted on 09/06/2002 11:12:45 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: FreeTheHostages
Amen to that. (I might as well suck up to them on your post....LOL)
540 posted on 09/06/2002 11:13:12 AM PDT by Howlin
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