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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: BADJOE
This seems like a good place no matter who is paying the bills.
21 posted on 09/06/2002 8:35:39 AM PDT by Six Bells
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To: BADJOE
WHAT exactly IS your problem??? I thought this issue was hashed out, finished and done with??

AND are you serious when you say you "HATE" OUR government???

22 posted on 09/06/2002 8:36:37 AM PDT by Neets
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To: BADJOE
C'mon BadJoe - not again, please...
23 posted on 09/06/2002 8:36:47 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: Six Bells
hang around a while;
it'll likely become a sanity haven for ya ...
24 posted on 09/06/2002 8:37:21 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
USUALLY
25 posted on 09/06/2002 8:37:45 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: BADJOE
BJ-if you hadn't been around for so long, if you hadn't contributed so much to FR, I'd be calling you a disruptor right now....(hangs head and sighs)
26 posted on 09/06/2002 8:37:46 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: tomkat; BADJOE
"if there's ever a week to at least attempt a united front"

A united front shall not be accomplished by squelching debate...I just think calling JimRob a "SELLOUT" is absolutely preposterous and I'd like to see who the heck agrees with BADJOE on this lunacy!!

FReegards...MUD

27 posted on 09/06/2002 8:38:19 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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Anyone have anything to go with this?

28 posted on 09/06/2002 8:38:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: OneidaM
AND are you serious when you say you "HATE" OUR government???

Hate can be a good thing, if properly channeled.

29 posted on 09/06/2002 8:38:57 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: BADJOE
bump
30 posted on 09/06/2002 8:39:15 AM PDT by steve50
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To: HairOfTheDog

31 posted on 09/06/2002 8:39:24 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sweetie, it's beyond the point of Whinne and Cheese now.

It is just plain disgusting...and what a slap to Jim Robinson, after having been so charitable to BadJoe after his last episode.

32 posted on 09/06/2002 8:40:01 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Darth Sidious
Hate can be a good thing, if properly channeled.

LOL! Still a bit fuzzy on the whole "Dark side" thing Darth?

33 posted on 09/06/2002 8:40:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Darth Sidious
Yea, whatever,,,hate is hate is hate is hate, no matter how you channel it or try to sugar coat it, or even redefine it.
34 posted on 09/06/2002 8:41:01 AM PDT by Neets
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To: BADJOE
Joe, I thought you and someone else were overseeing the moderation. If anyone knows what's going on, it should be you. Rather than beating around the bush, can you tell us what happened, and why you are unable settle this privately with Jim?
35 posted on 09/06/2002 8:41:48 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Darth Sidious
Agreed. Particularly towards the likes of bin Laden...

I've let the hate for that creep flow through me since 9/11.
36 posted on 09/06/2002 8:42:02 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: HairOfTheDog
Still a bit fuzzy on the whole "Dark side" thing Darth?

It's that "being married now" thing, it keeps coloring the Dark Side a lighter shade of pale.

37 posted on 09/06/2002 8:42:37 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: HairOfTheDog
Just exactly who is shooting the funding in the foot?

Answer: the architect(s) of these continuing psychodramas.

38 posted on 09/06/2002 8:42:56 AM PDT by Kathleen
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To: Mudboy Slim
debate is one thing;
tantrums are another kettle of cheese ...
39 posted on 09/06/2002 8:43:23 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: dirtboy
Good post, dirtboy.

I do NOT understand yet another thread like this, at this time.
40 posted on 09/06/2002 8:43:56 AM PDT by justshe
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