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Should we trust George W. Bush?
World Net Daily ^ | 8/29/02 | Harry Browne

Posted on 08/29/2002 1:00:30 PM PDT by feelin_poorly

Shortly after 9-11, TV talk-show host Sean Hannity said, "Thank God, we have an honest man in the White House!"

And when you think about it, a great deal of what you might believe about the so-called War on Terrorism is based on statements from George W. Bush. You have only his word, or that of someone in his administration:

Since America is endangered by the "you're either with me or against me" tactics of the Bush administration, it becomes vital to know whether we can trust the man in charge of our government.

The record

So does George Bush's record inspire confidence in his honesty?

Unfortunately, this is the same man who has referred to trillions of dollars in budget surpluses – even though the federal government hasn't had a budget surplus since 1956. (The appearance of any "surpluses" was created by taking excess receipts from Social Security and applying them to the general budget, even as the politicians swore they were protecting Social Security.)

Mr. Bush even has the chutzpah to refer with a straight face (well not exactly a straight face, he loves to smirk) to corporate executives "cooking the books." He neglects to mention that many of the corporate bookkeeping methods the politicians are so incensed about today were motivated by rules imposed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

And George Bush is the same man who in 2000 said he believed in "limited government." Most people assumed he meant a government limited by the Constitution. In fact, he took an oath in which he swore to uphold the Constitution.

But he's violated virtually every one of the first 10 Amendments – especially the Ninth and 10th Amendments, which are meant to impose precise limits on his power.

So his belief in "limited government" apparently means government limited to what he wants to do.

George Bush is the same man who in one breath tries to ingratiate himself with you by saying, "It's your money, not the politicians' money" – but in the next breath, he says he's entitled to one third of "your money."

George Bush is the same man who said he has learned more about political philosophy from Jesus of Nazareth than from anyone else. But he's proven by his actions that he doesn't really believe such things as "Blessed are the peacemakers." And "the meek" who Jesus said would inherit the earth are in Mr. Bush's eyes really just "collateral damage" in his plans to tell the world how it must live.

Is honesty important?

In these and in so many other ways, George Bush has proven that he's not an honest man – and that we shouldn't trust him with the safety of America.

In fact, Thomas Jefferson understood that we shouldn't put our trust in any politician. He said we should bind them down from mischief "by the chains of the Constitution." And a truly honest man wouldn't even ask you to trust him.

Contrary to what you might have thought, this isn't an article about George Bush. It's an article about you. Are you going to demean yourself by putting your faith in a man who has done so much to demonstrate the folly of such faith?

Are you going to let politicians stampede you into throwing away the Bill of Rights, based on "evidence" you never see, reassured by politicians who have proven that the truth is secondary to their own ambitions?

Don't you have enough respect for your own mind to make your own decisions, refuse to accept conclusions without evidence, and be something better than a cheerleader for a politician or a political party?


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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Well, go ahead and ignore me then. I am not the one who brings in the rat pack and as a result, brings these threads into the 1,000+ zone.
1,021 posted on 08/30/2002 10:58:43 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I really do pity you and your life. I don't care enough to psychoanalyze you, but it's clear that in addition to having no social outlets, you choose to hang out with people twice (or more) your age....

LOL - you'd better work on your condescending skills, South Buttocks - you're just coming across as silly.

When I was only a year or two older than FIJC, I started a Christian ministry that went all over the world. She's plenty old enough to be able to eloquently and appropriately speak her mind - and she does just that. The fact that you can't handle people being "intimate" in their speech speaks not of any imprpriety on her part, but rather of a calloused and damaged psyche on *your* part. That's what's the pity.

1,022 posted on 08/30/2002 11:00:10 AM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"I really do pity you and your life. I don't care enough to psychoanalyze you, but it's clear that in addition to having no social outlets, you choose to hang out with people twice (or more) your age."

I do have social outlets, but when it comes to politics...nothing compares to political forums on the internet.

I have never believed that there is anything wrong with conversing and even sometimes hanging around "adults." Believe it or not, I do have some people who I would consider to be "friends", that are in their 40's. I don't see anything wrong with that.

1,023 posted on 08/30/2002 11:01:40 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jefferson Adams
I don't have a chip on my shoulder yet, as some people obviously do.
1,024 posted on 08/30/2002 11:02:24 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jefferson Adams
You are as pathetic as she is, but don't have the excuse of youth. Sorry........no pity for you. Try elsewhere.
1,025 posted on 08/30/2002 11:02:25 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Believe it or not, I do have some people who I would consider to be "friends", that are in their 40's. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Neither do I. And as someone in my forties, I'd be honored to be included in that list of friends.

1,026 posted on 08/30/2002 11:03:24 AM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
You are as pathetic as she is, but don't have the excuse of youth. Sorry........no pity for you. Try elsewhere.

OH! OUCH!!! That really hurt, SB < g > LOL

1,027 posted on 08/30/2002 11:04:14 AM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
Thanks. I have been fortunate to have been blessed with some solid mentors in life, who I would consider to be friends.
1,028 posted on 08/30/2002 11:05:48 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
I don't have a chip on my shoulder yet, as some people obviously do.

I know you don't - your honest and open sincerity have always been what I liked about you and your posts.

Speaking of chips, just don't let people with buffalo chips for brains get you down. When they look at their own lives and their own accomplishments, and then consider someone like yourself who is young, fresh, and alive - well, it just doesn't do their egos any good, let's say.

Anyhow, gotta run - nice talking with you again :)

1,029 posted on 08/30/2002 11:07:08 AM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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"South Buttocks"

"I started a Christian ministry that went all over the world."

I can see why you stopped...at least one would HOPE that you stopped as that "Christian" attitude is NOT what you were using above. Unless you and I have a different concept of the precepts of Christianity.

1,030 posted on 08/30/2002 11:08:18 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Sorry, should have pinged you to my response above.
1,031 posted on 08/30/2002 11:12:29 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
No problem. As with most of his type, I see JA contradicts his feigned righteousness, the moment he opens his mouth. Why am I not surprised?
1,032 posted on 08/30/2002 11:16:09 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: feelin_poorly
that Osama bin Laden masterminded the 9-11 attacks (the infamous videotape demonstrated his joy at the success of the attacks, not his participation);

The English translation of that merry little frat party has Osama saying that the destruction of the World Trade Center was even greater than they had calculated. Clearly, he was responsible so why do you question his guilt?

1,033 posted on 08/30/2002 11:17:42 AM PDT by Attillathehon
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To: Jefferson Adams
When they look at their own lives and their own accomplishments, and then consider someone like yourself who is young, fresh, and alive - well, it just doesn't do their egos any good, let's say.

I have watched a lot of this go down, and I can tell you this is not about envy. You know nothing of the lives and accomplishments of the women you are being critical of. If you have no appreciation for women your own age, that is your prerogative, but call it what it really is. There isn't a person in their forties here who wishes they were twenty years-old - except maybe you, from what I gather.

1,034 posted on 08/30/2002 11:20:09 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
There isn't a person in their forties here who wishes they were twenty years-old - except maybe you, from what I gather

I can honestly say I don't miss those days one bit

1,035 posted on 08/30/2002 11:26:19 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: justshe
Unfortunately yes
1,036 posted on 08/30/2002 11:26:57 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Yes, well one of your specialities is judging everyone else, which is one of your more endearing qualities, I can assure you.
1,037 posted on 08/30/2002 11:30:03 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
There is more than one reason why men in their forties often marry women twenty years younger than them--middle aged women often have an unbearable chip on their shoulder. Who would want to spend the rest of their life with someone like that?
1,038 posted on 08/30/2002 11:31:23 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Mo1
I can honestly say I don't miss those days one bit

Me either. I think the only ones that do are the middle-aged failures that scratch their heads in dismay when seeing the contentment of other people their age.

I suspect they want to start over and not miss the train next time around.

1,039 posted on 08/30/2002 11:31:42 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FreedominJesusChrist; Southflanknorthpawsis
BeckIE,

I think Southflanknorthpawsis was trying to give you some honest, sincere, feed-back. YOU are the one who has questioned the reasoning behind some comments to you. I would suggest you ponder.

I honestly read her comments to you in only a sincere light. And you are correct, if others do NOT want to respond to details of your personal life which you seem determined to share, they CAN ignore you. But that rather limits the reason for you to interact on this forum doesn't it? How many people ignoring you would it take for you to at LEAST consider the advice you have been given?

I wish you well. But I will NOT respond to personal details re: proms/thongs/oils/come-ons/your personal sexual mores, drinking habits, etc. That is NOT MY reason for participating on this forum.
1,040 posted on 08/30/2002 11:41:35 AM PDT by justshe
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