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To: Doctor Stochastic
Name a single eye witness to the "evolutionary" beginning of the universe. Evolution is a philosophical position that attempts to explain the beginning of the universe, the age of the universe, and the animal world as it is today. Name one thing that you know is scientifically true about evolution - please.
58 posted on 08/28/2002 10:41:51 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
Name a single eye witness to the "evolutionary" beginning of the universe.

Name an eye witness to creation.

My Old Testament history class at Oklahoma Baptist University taught me that the two different creation stories (yes, there are two, ready Genesis chaps 1 and 2) were given to Man by divine inspiration.

Since when can people have a clear understanding of what God is saying to them? If that were so, then why aren't all Christians in the same denomination? Are we saved by grace, or is it works?

Humans can never completly understand God. So I conclude that the two different creation stories in the Bible cannot possibly precise "fact". They are imperfect interpretations by humans of what God told them.

84 posted on 08/28/2002 10:55:54 AM PDT by narby
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To: LiteKeeper
Evolutionary theory says nothing about the beginning or the universe. Please rephrase your question about evolutionary theory.
136 posted on 08/28/2002 11:20:15 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: LiteKeeper
Name a single eye witness to the "evolutionary" beginning of the universe. Evolution is a philosophical position that attempts to explain the beginning of the universe, the age of the universe, and the animal world as it is today. Name one thing that you know is scientifically true about evolution - please.

You can witness it yourself. In our lifetimes, several distinct breeds of dogs have been created by evolution. Five hundred years ago, there were no hairless cats. They evolved because humans stepped in and made sure they survived and bred. Humans are far different than they were 200 years ago. We have evolved. My generation is taller than my father's generation. We evolved.

Evolution is everywhere and we see it every day. It can be duplicated and demonstrated.

The scary part that scientists aren't talking about is the de-evolution that has already started. Weaker, stupider people are surviving and breeding because smarter, stronger people give them money. In one or two generations, the number of dummies will grow exponentially. In the past, the cronically stupid and week humans bred at slower rate than the smart, strong humans. I fear the future.

If you can find it, look for C.M. Kornbluth's, The Marching Morons. It is a short story about a time that may come when the vast majority of people are stupid and a few capable people secretly maintain the infrastructure to keep them from fighting and destroying the earth.
381 posted on 08/28/2002 7:15:14 PM PDT by Poser
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To: LiteKeeper
Name a single eye witness to the "evolutionary" beginning of the universe. Evolution is a philosophical position that attempts to explain the beginning of the universe, the age of the universe, and the animal world as it is today. Name one thing that you know is scientifically true about evolution - please.


Me!  I'm a witness because up to now everything
 I've ever seen or experienced is an evolution.   My
 whole life even, I have evolved.  I have even looked
 around the corner and seen a glimpse of my own
 extinction.  Every year nature creates a more virulent
 form of Flu, known by various names, Hong Kong,
 Swine, etc., that we are all cautioned to be inoculated
 for and I suffer the consequences because I don't.
 Sadly, I see Societies and Cultures evolve due to
 internal or external forces, such as ours after Viet
 Nam and 9/11.  A child in the inner city adapts or
 pays the consequences.   Even my words here have
evolved as I type.   I can see this so obvious pattern
 of existence so clearly that it is certain that God's
 only plan is evolution.   It always amazes me to hear
 of fools that attempt to find a religious problem in
 the simple reality of our origin.

I'm glad my daughter just graduated from Kennesaw.
  
506 posted on 08/29/2002 6:16:49 PM PDT by higgmeister
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