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I saw that movie once, what was your favorite scene?
1 posted on 12/07/2023 3:57:00 PM PST by algore
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Surely it is not that difficult.


78 posted on 12/07/2023 5:38:26 PM PST by gridlock (At some point, King Rupert must take responsibility for his own predicaments. )
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How many hours of Flight Simulator have you played?

Actually landing the plane is not so hard. Landing the plane in such a way that it can take off again, not so easy.

83 posted on 12/07/2023 5:44:24 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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Favorite scene: β€œyes stewardess, I speak jive.”


85 posted on 12/07/2023 5:47:53 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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Aircraft maintenance in the military, did heavy transports for several years - C-5A and C-141A. I know the power, hydraulic, avionics, flight and engine instrument systems. Fun Job, enjoyed it.

Could I land one? Maybe good enough to walk or crawl away. Reusing the airframe? That’ll cost you extra.


89 posted on 12/07/2023 5:55:40 PM PST by dagunk
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I don’t believe I could land any plane, but I’d have a pretty good shot at landing a Space Shuttle. A lifetime ago I used to work on the Shuttle Simulator at Johnson Space Center.


92 posted on 12/07/2023 6:05:10 PM PST by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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As a retired career pilot I think it possible to keep it in the air, even without the AP engaged but landing ... Nope!

Some of the bigger carrier flight decks are still 2 and 3 stories above the tarmac .. when they are sitting ON the tarmac!😁

AGAIN .. NOPE!😌


95 posted on 12/07/2023 6:09:45 PM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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50% might be about right.

Half the guys (non-pilot candidates) who went into the simulator for the first time ever could follow instructions from "air traffic control" to adjust the throttle, maintain a heading, trim the nose, lower flaps, and follow an instrument glide slope. Their flair wasn't pretty but they would have survived.

103 posted on 12/07/2023 6:47:38 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Cars have technology to ‘practically’ drive themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if modern passenger planes have technology that allows a plane to fly & land without a pilot.


104 posted on 12/07/2023 6:47:48 PM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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Even if you have a seasoned pilot talking you through it on the radio, there still are two YUGE problems.

First, as you slow to landing speed, the flight controls become much less responsive because there’s less energy in the air flowing over the control surfaces. You start fighting the yoke, looking for the sweet spot between undercontrolling and overcontrolling. Which is next to impossible for anyone who’s never landed an airplane, particularly a large one because when you’re so close to the ground there’s little room for error.

And when you land, the fun is just beginning, because now you’re driving a car that’s going 150 MPH and you have to steer it WITH YOUR FEET.

Magic 8-Ball says: Outlook not so good


105 posted on 12/07/2023 6:55:21 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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They tried this on Myth Busters, using simulators. Adam never got the aircraft under control, and quickly crashed, killing everyone on board. Jamie was able to get the aircraft under control, fly it to the airport, descending to the correct altitude for landing, line up with the runway, and get the aircraft inside the airport perimeter fence, before he crashed, and killed everyone on board.
107 posted on 12/07/2023 7:27:37 PM PST by Pilsner
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https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2017/june/flight-training-magazine/landing-with-flair


109 posted on 12/07/2023 7:37:08 PM PST by linMcHlp
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I’m an instrument rated pilot. I am sure I could. Just need the numbers for the aircraft since there is no time to study the flight manual.


112 posted on 12/07/2023 7:56:36 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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More likely to be successful with a modern jetliner than a private plane. Get instructions on how to program the flight computer, and if it’s a major airport, the computers should do the hard work.

Except maybe San Francisco, where there appears to be an issue with some of the air traffic controllers.


115 posted on 12/07/2023 8:17:08 PM PST by PAR35
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Oh, I don’t know. When I worked as an engineer at Boeing, they let us into the simulators to try to land the plane. I was the only one in my group who managed it, although it did skid sideways on the runway a bit. I am female BTW.


116 posted on 12/07/2023 8:17:31 PM PST by Whatever Works
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Well if it was my flight Mr. GG2 would raise his hand and I’m not sayin he’d stick a 10 because its been a few decades but he’s rated on a 737 so with the controller in his ear we’d land. Somewhere. πŸ˜†


117 posted on 12/07/2023 8:26:31 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I'm a B777 pilot. The average person could not do it manually, there would be a nearly 100% fail rate. Someone fairly calm and able to follow instructions could be talked through coupling it up to the ILS for an autoland given enough time. Most modern airliners are capable of autolanding where the autopilot flies it to touchdown. It's not as easy as it sounds though, there is a lot of programming of the FMS and many steps involved in getting it to that point. If you have someone who is cool under pressure and can follow the instructions of the pilot on the other end of the radio it could be done and the autobrakes will bring the plane to a stop on the runway. Everything has to be done perfectly to get it to that point however.

A military aviator could probably be talked through configuring the airplane with a type rated pilot on the radio and land it manually, although it wouldn't be pretty. A guy with 1000 hrs in a Cessna 172 landing it manually? You're probably gonna die. Somebody with no flight experience? Yeah right.

It's not that hard but it does take repetition and muscle memory. Water skiing isn't that hard but how many people stay up for a mile the first time they try it?

119 posted on 12/07/2023 8:40:42 PM PST by GaryCrow
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Anyone could land that plane.

But, to envoke Daffy Duck, ... You have to be able to walk away.


122 posted on 12/08/2023 9:42:03 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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In the words of Indiana Jones, “How hard could it be?”


132 posted on 12/09/2023 9:00:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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It’ll be on the ground when I’m finished, isn’t that good enough?


133 posted on 12/09/2023 12:49:22 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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