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IVF 'is lulling women into a false sense of security' that they can delay parenthood and become middle-aged mothers
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Posted on 05/07/2022 10:54:23 PM PDT by algore

Women are being lulled into a false sense of security that IVF treatment will enable them to become middle-age mothers, a world-leading expert has warned.

Professor Cornelis Lambalk, editor-in-chief of the influential medical journal Human Reproduction, said delaying parenthood as a result was a risky strategy.

He was responding to a recent Australian study, published in Human Reproduction, which found use of 'assisted reproductive technology' (ART) in women over 40 has risen by more than half over the last decade.

'ART' is an umbrella term for medical techniques that aid conception, including in vitro fertilisation (IVF) and intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI).

In the UK, the number of IVF treatments given to women over 40 rose by 41 per cent between 2009 and 2019, from around 10,200 IVF 'cycles' to 14,400.

Prof Lambalk, a gynaecologist at Amsterdam University Medical Centres in the Netherlands, said that while ART was 'very useful for many fertility disorders', its limited effectiveness meant it was 'not clearly the treatment of choice for the natural age-related decline in fertility'

He added that the perception IVF and other medical interventions offered such women a high chance of having a baby was 'a widespread public, and to some extent professional, misunderstanding'.

'Perhaps [this perception is] even contributing to the increasing trend for delaying childbearing, with the expectation that ART in the future can overcome it,' he said.

But Professor Adam Balen, lead clinician at the private Leeds Fertility clinic and a former chairman of the British Fertility Society, said: 'Most people aren't thinking, 'I can have IVF when the time it right.'

'People just don't think about declining fertility.' He conceded, however, that Prof Lambalk 'has a point' as some do mistakenly believe IVF offers a high chance of success for women over 40, when it does not.

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I heard somewhere that ivf in vaxxed people is now failing at a much higher rate, but no one can figure out what the cause might be
1 posted on 05/07/2022 10:54:23 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore
'ART' is an umbrella term for medical techniques that aid conception, including in vitro fertilisation (IVF) and intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI).

Wondering how I can work that expression into my usual pick-up lines...

Regards,

2 posted on 05/07/2022 11:09:36 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Good luck. LOL


3 posted on 05/07/2022 11:23:31 PM PDT by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: alexander_busek

Works on cougars, I’m told.


4 posted on 05/07/2022 11:31:49 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: alexander_busek

Rather than the fastest sperm getting the egg, they just pick a random one and inject it in. I wonder how that works out.


5 posted on 05/07/2022 11:42:55 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: algore

Why anyone would want to wait until they’re older and tireder to have children is beyond me. Not to mention having a decreased chance of seeing grandchildren, especially if the middle-aged new mom raises a daughter who waits until middle age to start a family. Toss in the current trend of shorter life spans, and grandmas will become name-only relatives.


6 posted on 05/07/2022 11:45:14 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: algore

I’ve never believed the statistics that pregnancy is pretty much impossible after 40. The fertility clinics just want to make money. I’ve known so many women who were surprised to become pregnant in their 40’s, including their late 40’s, even though they were not planning to. Some had grown children when they became pregnant again. Many of my friends and family members (including one of my parents) were born to mothers in their mid-40’s many years ago, long before IVF was invented.


7 posted on 05/07/2022 11:45:55 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

My grandmother had five children. She had her first at the at the age of 23 and gave birth to her last,in 1954, at the age of 47.

No IVF involved.


8 posted on 05/08/2022 12:26:57 AM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: algore

Emotional bonding with the child in the womb is critically important for fetal development and survival.


9 posted on 05/08/2022 1:08:52 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Trillian
Rather than the fastest sperm getting the egg, they just pick a random one and inject it in. I wonder how that works out.

Interesting to consider that there is just one ovum (egg) per ovulation (under normal circumstances), and that thus no selection takes place. I.e., there is no selecting-out of substandard eggs. But there are hundreds of millions of sperms competing to fertilize that egg. So "stragglers," slackers," or the like are "filtered out."

In the case of Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection, I expect that the "lab boys" must carry out some form of visual inspection, no matter how cursory, and select the best-looking candidate.

I mean: They won't choose some overweight spermatozoön sitting in the corner playing with its XBox, will they?

Regards,

10 posted on 05/08/2022 1:15:51 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Trillian

A generation of marathon runners and a dearth of sprinters...


11 posted on 05/08/2022 2:22:19 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: algore

The most harmful thing feminism did was tell women to not get serious about getting a man in their 20s (when they’re far more attractive to men) and to not have kids until their 30s (after their fertility has seriously declined). This has led to a lot of unhappiness both in the form of women who can’t find a man once they’re ready to settle down and/or who can’t have kids once they’re ready for them.

“’If you came when you were even 35 it might have been 35 or even 40 per cent,’ added Prof Balen, who is helping lead a campaign for secondary school children to be taught about how fertility naturally declines with age.” *the chances for a woman to have a child at 40 or over even with IVF are only about 15%.

Oh by the way......notice how guys just happen to be far more attracted to women who are more fertile? Amazing how nature works. Its almost like we have evolutionary and biological reasons for wanting what we want....


12 posted on 05/08/2022 3:40:14 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: CaptainK

I had my first child at 24 and my 10th at 45, simply by the natural operations of biology.


13 posted on 05/08/2022 4:43:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: CaptainK; Tax-chick

Yep! I knew many women in their mid-50’s with biological children under 10 (and sometimes children in their 20’s and 30’s at the same time).

Most women my age didn’t marry until 30-ish, and they still had children easily through their 30’s, early 40’s, and sometimes late 40’s without planning to.


14 posted on 05/08/2022 5:20:32 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Those who don’t intentionally wreck their reproductive systems often find that they have babies.


15 posted on 05/08/2022 5:36:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: algore

There are also the short and long term health issues of the IVF babies... and those issues range from low weight at birth all the way to increased cancer as adults. There probably aren’t any ‘real and trustworthy conclusions’ on this since everyone researching the question will be selecting the data that support what they would like the conclusion to be... but I highly suspect that Brave New World and playing in the domain of God doesn’t come without its costs...


16 posted on 05/08/2022 5:43:59 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: algore

Here’s a thought - how about all those who were fine denying medical treatments to those who refused the jab, also think it’s OK to deny these treatments to any woman who ever aborted their baby.


17 posted on 05/08/2022 5:55:57 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: CaptainK

You put my Grandma to shame!!


18 posted on 05/08/2022 7:48:16 AM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: skr

Many years ago I was at a high school reunion, one of my classmates was living in Mexico, in some cartel city (for some reason that I can only speculate on)

in any case he was telling me that he had this girl and was undecided on having children.

I am like umm, you had better do it now if you think you might want some

I tried to tell him why, but he said he had heard it all from his mom, friends, jefe etc.

I said I don’t know what their reasons are, but do you really want a teenager when you are 60 or 65 ?

maybe I will see him again in a few years and find out/


19 posted on 05/08/2022 12:22:47 PM PDT by algore
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To: CaptainK

My biological mother had me at 15 and my youngest sister at 42.


20 posted on 05/17/2022 10:44:03 AM PDT by gracie1 (Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn’t mean you have to approve of it. )
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