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'Cheap sex' is making men give up on marriage
NY Post ^ | September 2, 2017 | Larry Getlan

Posted on 09/03/2017 11:34:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode

Thanks to cheap sex, marriage may be doomed.

The share of Americans ages 25-34 who are married dropped 13 percentage points from 2000 to 2014. A new book by sociologist Mark Regnerus blames this declining rate on how easy it is for men to get off.

Regnerus calls it “cheap sex,” an economic term meant to describe sex that has very little cost in terms of time or emotional investment, giving it little value.

Regnerus bases his ideas, in part, on the work of British social theorist Anthony Giddens, who argued that the pill isolated sex from marriage and children. Add online pornography and dating sites to the mix and you don’t even need relationships.

The result is “two overlapping (but distinctive) markets, one for sex and one for marriage, with a rather large territory in between comprised of significant relationships of varying commitment and duration,” Regnerus writes in “Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy” (Oxford University Press).

In generations past, women generally made men wait until marriage to have sex. To get a wife (and, therefore, sex), men had to be clean and presentable and have a good job. This, Regnerus reasons, gave men all the motivation they needed to become respectable members of society.

Now with porn on-demand and greater reproductive freedom, sex is a commodity available at any time. This has left men with little motivation for marriage, writes Regnerus, who cites demographer Steven Ruggles’ prediction that one of every three people in their 20s will never marry.

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KEYWORDS: loserman; marriage; men; mgtow; promiscuity; pua; redpill
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To: EdnaMode

Cheap sex will not doom marriage because sex is not the only reason men want to get married. Sure, most men have a promiscuous streak, and most would probably be promiscuous if they had nothing to lose, but in the end men want love, homes, a safe place to raise their children, and lots of other things that they can’t get from cheap sex.


41 posted on 09/03/2017 12:03:36 PM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: EdnaMode; miss marmelstein

Back when Joseph Campbell’s series was the rage, at a NYC dinner party I postulated that we were witnessing the beginnings of the Age of Maenads in the West.


42 posted on 09/03/2017 12:04:12 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: FatherofFive

I don’t know about that.....


43 posted on 09/03/2017 12:04:32 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have aklways been cowboys)
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To: rbg81

what you don’t like the look of nose rings, tatoos and fat gut?


44 posted on 09/03/2017 12:05:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have aklways been cowboys)
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To: 2banana
There is a whole lot of OTHER reasons men are not getting married. A family court system that will bankrupt them for life

BINGO!! Not just bankrupt them, FORCE THEM TO WORK AND SUPPORT the ungrateful b*tches under threat of jail-time if they don't.

YES, that's exactly what is going on here in Illinois.

45 posted on 09/03/2017 12:07:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: EdnaMode

No, it’s feminism and family/divorce court.


46 posted on 09/03/2017 12:08:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (Anime is real.)
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To: 2banana

Yep. A man would have to be an idiot to get married today, and I’ve been married forty years.


47 posted on 09/03/2017 12:09:55 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: EdnaMode

“When God curses you, he makes all your dreams come true”

And now feminism is absolutely surrounded by protectors; cops, courts, counselors, CPS, many others.

BUT NO MARRIAGE.


48 posted on 09/03/2017 12:10:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EdnaMode

Hence, the higher cost of health insurance and meds to cure what cheap sex caused.


49 posted on 09/03/2017 12:10:41 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: EdnaMode

It is not the “cheap sex”, it is the expensive divorce.


50 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:02 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: miss marmelstein

Why any man, with a few bucks in the bank and a decent career, would ever consider a marriage (a one sided contract enforced by the State) is beyond me. There is zero advantage for a man to marry, period. The family and domestic violence courts are stacked against the man and the word of the woman wins every time.

The problem here is Biblical. The Bible tells us in Genesis that woman will do everything in her power to attempt to usurp Biblical authority from the man. That is why throughout history, society did what was necessary to keep women in their place, because men knew that an untamed woman with all of the rights and duties of a man would result in social chaos.

In our current society, women are feral. They hold all of the cards and call all of the shots. They use the no-fault divorce to “test out marriage” and then when things don’t go their way they move in with the boyfriend and file for divorce. They get the kids and half of all property. It is a sad state of affairs. But what is even more depressing is the beta cucks I see being over-lorded by their GF/wives.

I mean, just think in a historical context...could you ever imagine a Roman solider or English constable coming to a man’s home to arrest him for straitening out his wife and maintaining discipline in his home? No way. And that’s the issue: Woman Biblically require discipline. Our ancestors knew this. Without it, they run wild as you see today.


51 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:09 PM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: Bryanw92
Men didn’t really change. Women changed. Then men re-prioritized.

Very good point. Man is a more basic animal. Point A to point B (good woman) is a straight line. If point B no longer exists, or is impossible to get to, then we change our goal.

52 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:20 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: EdnaMode; miss marmelstein
Hmmm....forgot go to include the Britainnica definition of maenads to make sense of my prior comment:

"maenad

a female follower of the Greek god of wine, Dionysus. The word maenad comes from the Greek maenades, meaning “mad” or “demented.” During the orgiastic rites of Dionysus, maenads roamed the mountains and forests performing frenzied, ecstatic dances and were believed to be possessed by the god. While under his influence they were supposed to have unusual strength, including the ability to tear animals or people to pieces...."

53 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:41 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: dfwgator

I’m seeing more and more.


54 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:47 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Sacajaweau
Women made men wait to marriage?? In what world did that happen?

It happened to me and I have been married to Mrs. teletech for 51 years. If you truly love someone you will wait.

55 posted on 09/03/2017 12:11:59 PM PDT by teletech
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To: Luke21

MGTOW - an idea whose time has arrived.


56 posted on 09/03/2017 12:12:52 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: yldstrk

Any of the three is enough.

I don’t need the double or triple whammy.


57 posted on 09/03/2017 12:13:06 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: EdnaMode

When I was a young adult woman, we didn’t make the guys wait-I didn’t know even one virgin by my 1st year of college-I guess some would say we were all a bunch of sluts-but most of us were not promiscuous, and we got engaged to a steady guy, married before or after graduation, had kids, house in the burbs, etc.

In the remote ranching area near the border where I grew up, when boys started to really notice the girls at maybe 14-15, dads took them to one of the fancier brothels across the river and had the boy pick a prostitute a few years older to show him what it was all about-common practice that we all knew about-no one thought much about it, and it was supposed to keep us respectable ranch girls virgin a bit longer. I don’t think it worked all that well, though-hormones are hormones...


58 posted on 09/03/2017 12:13:09 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: wastedyears

Yeah good point.


59 posted on 09/03/2017 12:13:40 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: 2banana

Exactly. American young men today are taking a YUGE disc with their future if they marry an American girl.

And the odds are not in their favor.


60 posted on 09/03/2017 12:14:03 PM PDT by robroys woman
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