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Downtrend HuffPo: Shooting In Self-Defense Is Illegal Because It Denies Violent Criminals A Fair Tri
Downtrend ^ | April 28, 2016 | Brian Anderson

Posted on 04/30/2016 2:23:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I have no idea what to make of this. The Huffington Post is arguing that Americans have no legal right to shoot a violent attacker because it violates the criminal’s right to a fair trial. I feel confident in saying this is by far the dumbest attempt to subvert our gun ownership rights ever and that’s saying a lot considering how insanely stupid gun grabbers are.

Justin Curmi is a dyslexic guy with a degree in philosophy. According to his bio he is, “A blogger that seeks to engage people in thought and conversation through presenting new views to matters, new or old.” Writing for The HuffPo, he presented one hell of a view concerning our right to not be murdered by a maniac killer.

Oddly enough, this thing starts out very un-HuffPosty by acknowledging that the 2nd Amendment does protect private gun ownership:

 The Second Amendment is highly contested. There is no doubt that people do have the right to carry and have a stockpile of guns (“the right of the people to keep and bear arms”) and a state has the right to organize a well-regulated Militia. But, the main issue is on the right to self-defend with a firearm.

It’s still worded sarcastically, but that does seem like the author reluctantly agrees with the people’s right to keep and bear arms. Now here is where things become unhinged:

 The main problem with the notion of self-defense is it imposes on justice, for everyone has the right for a fair trial. Therefore, using a firearm to defend oneself is not legal because if the attacker is killed, he or she is devoid of his or her rights.

There are an awful lot of flaws with this argument, the first being that a violent attacker hasn’t been arrested or charged yet when they are trying to commit a terrible act. They aren’t due their day in court until they are formally charged. In addition, a person committing an unlawful act forfeits certain legal protections.

Second, the Bill of Rights only limits the power of the federal government, not the people. The Constitution doesn’t lay out all of our rights, just the ones the feds can’t mess with. We have other rights besides what is in the document, and one of those is the basic human right to live.

Third, nothing in the Constitution forbids the people from defending themselves against a deadly attack. There is no clause in the 6th Amendment that says a person cannot defend himself or herself with deadly force because it interferes with a criminal’s right to a fair trial. There have also been no Supreme Court rulings in this area.

And if you thought that was idiotic, check out the other reasons why the author thinks we can’t use guns in self-defense:

 Therefore, if we ponder and meditate on the recent events in news about guns, it would be obvious that the current state is incorrect. A gun for civilians is a weapon for a revolution and not for ordinary use. The belief that a gun is a useful tool to protect one is counterintuitive because guns get into the hands of people who use them for horrible reasons.

That’s almost like a cohesive thought, I guess. Basically this guy is saying that guns are only for overthrowing the government so they cannot be used for defense or hunting or target shooting. Plus, since criminals use guns for crime, law-abiding people can’t use them to stop crime.

The only thing I can conclude here is that the Huffington Post paid Justin Curmi with psychedelic mushrooms and gave him a big advance for his writing. This isn’t even normal gun-grabber ignorance and misrepresentation of fact. This is balls-out/tin-foil hat insanity. The only thing thought provoking about his argument is; why isn’t he in an institution where he can get the help he needs?


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My right to stay alive trumps your right to a fair trial. Period.


41 posted on 04/30/2016 7:35:36 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sheesh


42 posted on 04/30/2016 8:07:11 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Instant Justice by Self Defense verdict seems fair enough to me.

I bet the author thinks so, too, or would in the heat of that hypothetical moment while with gun in hand.

43 posted on 04/30/2016 8:12:54 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

In her car? Turn on the car and turn those thugs into speed bumps. Problem solved.


44 posted on 04/30/2016 9:15:05 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear God! Maybe when Arianna Huffington sees the bullet zinging toward her forehead she will realize that she was wrong about shooting in self-defense.


45 posted on 04/30/2016 9:16:47 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: elcid1970

Justin Bieber
Only exception would be Justin Wilson the Cajun cook


46 posted on 04/30/2016 11:41:15 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Hey mon, anyone he cook good Cajun style ain’t be no fool no how. Even see Martians land in bayou all Cajun gonna do is get rice started & get knife good & sharp.

;^)


47 posted on 04/30/2016 11:49:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: 4rcane

Are not the predatory protected class goblins entitled to their prey?


48 posted on 04/30/2016 5:40:14 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: elcid1970

Don’t forget Justin Bieber.

CC


49 posted on 05/01/2016 7:38:07 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: AbolishCSEU

You beat me to Bieber. I’m stuned.

CC


50 posted on 05/01/2016 7:42:37 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Robert DeLong

It is not necessarily male. The noun is of indeterminate sex and and the non-PC version of English rule is that a subject of unknown sex takes the masculine. If you accept PC English and insist on using it then ultimately you will not be able to write or say anything that means anything. That is the aim of PC English, to befoul the language and render communication futile.


51 posted on 05/01/2016 10:44:29 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus

Thanks, did not know that rule. Now I can use his and when I get called out I can explain the rule. I am being sincere here, just so there is no doubt about my response. Even sent myself an email with your explanation. Makes perfect sense by the way, and makes writing less complicated for sure.


52 posted on 05/01/2016 11:05:09 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Stuned, dude. Like, what can I say? Don’t Bogart my doobie?


53 posted on 05/01/2016 1:41:48 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: ronnie raygun

Take your New York values back to New York. Brian Anerdon is disagreeing with the HuffPo blogger Justin Curmi, a graduate from Baruch College in Manhattan, New York


54 posted on 05/01/2016 8:04:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (bombastic selfdeclared billionaire with penchant for crony capitalism and state subsidies)
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Folks, you just can’t make this ish up....


55 posted on 05/02/2016 9:51:02 AM PDT by Maverick68
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