Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums
Almost 800 babies and children were buried in a mass grave in Ireland near a home for unmarried mothers run by nuns, according to new research Wednesday which throws more light on the Irish Catholic Church's troubled past.
Death records suggest 796 children, from newborns to eight-year-olds, were deposited in a grave near a Catholic-run home for unmarried mothers during the 35 years it operated from 1925 to 1961.
Historian Catherine Corless, who made the discovery, says her study of death records for the St Mary's home in Tuam in County Galway suggests that a former septic tank near the home was a mass grave.
The septic tank, full to the brim with bones, was discovered in 1975 by locals when concrete slabs covering the tank broke up.
Until now, locals believed the bones mainly stemmed from the Great Irish famine of the 1840s when hundreds of thousands perished.
St Mary's, run by the Bons Secours Sisters, was one of several such 'mother and baby' homes in early 20th century Ireland.
Thousands of unmarried pregnant women -- labelled at the time as 'fallen women' -- were sent to the homes to have their babies.
The women were ostracised by the conservative-Catholic society and were often forced to hand over their children for adoption.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
When reason and logic escape you, post the stupid cartoons??? No doubt you failed to notice, this isn’t a Religion Forum thread and I posted a Scripture verse without ANY PIOS. Keep it up with the knee-jerk reaction - I hope you don’t imagine nobody sees what you’re trying to do.
Throwing bodies in a septic tank is mere disposal. Criminals have been known to do it to hide dead bodies. A proper Christian burial is to be expected from an organization run by nuns and the Catholic Church, whether or not they were poor. I have very poor ancestors who were buried in a handmade pine box with a fieldstone for a grave marker during the Civil War. It didn’t enter their minds to just dump the body somewhere. The rationalizations of the faithful here are actually shameful. This was not good, it was wrong. The Irish who discovered it were shocked. To listen to some of the excuses made here, the Irish shouldn’t have even batted an eye, rolling naked dead bodies into whatever crack or crevice was just what they did. Rather insulting to the Irish, if you ask me. It never ceases to amaze me, the lengths some will go to.
You’re reminding me more and more of Quix, but he at least had a sense of humor.
People who DID live in the town with that "home" recount their own stories of how the children were treated by the Catholic Church, the townspeople and the government. I haven't read much that hints at these kids having compassionate care from those who took it upon themselves to take their expectant mothers in (many women who, contrary to the knee-jerks, had no place else to go after becoming pregnant after rape). These women were forced to work and their children sold into indentured servitude or adopted without their mother's consent. Nobody, according to the report, even knew the origins of the mass grave - they thought it contained people who died a hundred years earlier in a famine. It sounds like a horrible and miserable place. With all the vast wealth in the Roman Catholic Church, I don't think it is illogical to expect them to take care of those they agree to help. Babies and little children should not have to starve to death WHILE in the care of such places. It really IS shameful and those who defend what happened only demonstrate the SAME cold-hearted and uncompassionate attitude of those who were directly in charge, who allowed these atrocities to take place. It certainly DID NOT honor the Lord.
Lighten up Francis.
The new glorified body God has for me will have no need for the old, flesh shell and I will have eternity to rejoice in God my Savior and praise His blessed name forever.
I agree. Thanks for your input.
Gee, infool7, it’s kinda hard to lighten up about something so terrible. Are you cool with what went on?
What exactly was it that “went on” Francis, were you there?
All the crap going on in the world today and this is the hobby horse you want to climb on and ride sally ride, well go ahead pal, welcome to the party and I thought I was the fool.
Gee it’s taking you a long time to come up with Ad hominem, come on I know you can come up with a 1000 word essay an how Infool7 is such a fool but alas everyone knows that already. You don’t fool anyone. We all know who the real fool is.
“Is it so difficult for Catholics to admit wrong was done by those representing their church and determine they will do all they can to prevent it from happening again?”
It is not. My family is from within a mile and a half of where that occurred. I was there this time last year. They, and my family here, are heartbroken about it. I accept the fact that people in my church have failed in a lot of cases, and work to do everything I can to ensure that the humans involved with my church do not sully God’s majesty.
C’mon bums this is getting old, I even left a few spelling errors in there for you to pick on. You are really passing up a great opportunity. What is taking you so long?
As someone who is a determined pro-lifer, it really bothers me to read about such things because I know about all the anti-life, pro-abortion rights people out there who will look at this as just another example of "religious" people who don't care about the children that come from unplanned or unwanted pregnancies. See, they will say, you claim you want to help pregnant women and girls but once the baby is born, you don't care anymore. Here is a prime example of that - a thousand dead babies tossed one on top of another in a used concrete septic tank, forgotten, unmarked, as if they never lived at all. "Hey! At least they weren't aborted!"
This reflects badly on ALL pro-life people, not just Roman Catholics. It distresses me and SHOULD do so for others.
Thank you. It is something ALL pro-lifers should work towards.
It is what it is regardless of the source or alleged “bias”.
Being Jewish, I know all about bias. I also know when hearing about some terrible things that rabbis and orthodox sects have done or are doing, I’m ashamed and disgusted by it and would not give one second’s thought to defending it.
I can’t imagine what your point is regarding the forensic challenges. Is it that the 800 bodies were carted in from elsewhere?
Sorry, forgot to add the link. Of course, you could have googled it, if you seriously cared about exposing “evil” in your religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethany_Home
Guess this means I’ve “put up,” so now I don’t have to “shut up,” as you so eloquently phrased it.
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