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800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers
AFP/Dublin/Yahoo News ^ | 06/042014 | unknown

Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums

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To: boatbums

In case you don’t accept Wikipedia as a reputable source, here’s another link with more detail about the horrible conditions at the Protestant home:

http://www.magdalenelaundries.com/bethany_history.pdf


161 posted on 06/06/2014 3:43:04 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Prince of Space

Sounds as if this Bethany had problems and there were instances of abuse, both physical and sexual, that occurred there. There are allegations of adults who were there as children. The home was inspected by Irish government authorities on numerous occasions. The children who died there were buried in individual graves, unmarked. The home had Church of Ireland members on the board but was not a Protestant church-run institution, according to what I’ve been able to locate.

Compare this to Tuam, run by nuns and the Catholic Church. Where are the records of inspection and allegations of adults who were there as children? There are allegations of there being children there, who had the appearance of starvation, almost skeletal with distended bellies, from local residents who saw them. But, nothing else that I’ve seen. The septic tank full of skeletal remains was kept up by a local couple of their own volition, they assumed it contained dead from the potato famine.

Why is that?


162 posted on 06/06/2014 5:15:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: narses

Yes, weren’t a lot of people just buried in shrouds?


163 posted on 06/06/2014 9:27:38 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: boatbums

I’m an organ donor too. It seems like a no-brainer to me, but some are freaked out by it. To each his own. The University of Washington has a willed body program, too.
One of the girls I blues dance with is a big booster of organ donation because her sister has a liver transplant. I thought that was a big deal until I met a woman in my P-patch with a heart transplant for 2 years. And p-patch work is fairly hard, physically.
People who long for the good old days overlook medical advances.

I guess “no-brainer” may have been an unfortunate figure of speech, since people have already been scolded for joking.


164 posted on 06/06/2014 9:36:46 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: boatbums

“Let me ask you, as a Catholic, do you approve of what these people did in the name of the Catholic Church?”

What did “they” do? They took care of the poor and unwanted, we know that. What is it that you deem so evil that anyone should be ashamed?


165 posted on 06/06/2014 4:40:38 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Prince of Space; boatbums

In case you don’t accept Wikipedia as a reputable source, here’s another link with more detail about the horrible conditions at the Protestant home:

http://www.magdalenelaundries.com/bethany_history.pdf

So hey bums - you seem not so horrified at what a proddy institution did, why is that? Where are your apologies and penances? Too busy dining with the yachting crowd to worry about the beam in your own eye?


166 posted on 06/06/2014 4:43:18 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses
So hey bums - you seem not so horrified at what a proddy institution did, why is that? Where are your apologies and penances? Too busy dining with the yachting crowd to worry about the beam in your own eye?

Hey, narses, why would you think I'm not horrified by ANY such abuse? In case you didn't notice, this thread's article came out a few DAYS ago about a Catholic-run home for unwed mothers in Ireland and the discovery of a huge, used septic tank packed to the top with the bodies of HUMAN beings - babies and young children which was discovered by some kids playing there. Has it hit your brain yet that such things are a TERRIBLE testimony for those who say they are pro-life? That link you gave, in case you didn't bother to read it, speaks about the MAGDALENE Laundries, too. Read it and get back to us about all the bad things you want to blame on all Protestants. Maybe you missed my earlier post:

    As someone who is a determined pro-lifer, it really bothers me to read about such things because I know about all the anti-life, pro-abortion rights people out there who will look at this as just another example of "religious" people who don't care about the children that come from unplanned or unwanted pregnancies. See, they will say, you claim you want to help pregnant women and girls but once the baby is born, you don't care anymore. Here is a prime example of that - a thousand dead babies tossed one on top of another in a used concrete septic tank, forgotten, unmarked, as if they never lived at all. "Hey! At least they weren't aborted!"

    This reflects badly on ALL pro-life people, not just Roman Catholics. It distresses me and SHOULD do so for others.

So, tell me, narses, are your penances and apologies for what happened in Catholic institutions paid up? Or, are you too busy casting blame and pointing fingers at others who you say are just as bad or marking it all down to just lies from Catholic haters????

Here's a thought...look to yourself and what YOU do to promote pro-life goals and get off your defensive high horse over anything that reflects negatively on your chosen religion. Your participation on these threads might actually mean something for a change.


BTW...we don't live aboard a boat anymore but have just a regular house - probably like yours - FAR away from any water or yachting crowds. I have no need to apologize for any of that, anyway. You'd know that if you actually read my profile. This must be a really sore spot for you to think others have worked hard and lived their dreams while they could. Are you sure you aren't a Liberal troll? Because this delusion you must have that we are wealthy and living the high life sure sounds just like part of Obama's class envy scheme. I thought you were a Conservative? Does JR know you hound and harass people you think have money? It's creepy!
167 posted on 06/06/2014 10:18:46 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

You seem to go out of your way to post negative articles about the Catholic Church, but when there is an equally horrific article concerning protestants, not so much. The Bethany Home scandal was brought to light in Ireland a few years ago, yet I somehow doubt we would find anything about it in your posting history.


168 posted on 06/07/2014 12:24:57 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: narses
And the haters want to make this into a scandal. Sad.

It is truly sad the usual suspects are so eager to swallow what the media feeds them, as long as it is against the Church. One of them jumped to the conclusion this was due to abortion and has assigned that keyword to this thread. At least some of the truth is starting to come out.

‘I never used that word ‘dumped’,” Catherine Corless, a local historian in Co Galway, tells The Irish Times. “I never said to anyone that 800 bodies were dumped in a septic tank. That did not come from me at any point. They are not my words.”

Between them the boys levered up the slab. “There were skeletons thrown in there. They were all this way and that way. They weren’t wrapped in anything, and there were no coffins,” he says. “But there was no way there were 800 skeletons down that hole. Nothing like that number. I don’t know where the papers got that.” How many skeletons does he believe there were? “About 20.”

This building was an old workhouse before it was an orphanage, but I'm sure there are some here who "know" these 20 skeletons were dumped there by nuns after performing abortions.

169 posted on 06/07/2014 2:00:16 AM PDT by Al Hitan ("you did it to me")
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To: Al Hitan

Rather than orphanage, it was a mother and baby home.


170 posted on 06/07/2014 2:18:10 AM PDT by Al Hitan ("you did it to me")
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To: boatbums
“The news isn't there to tell you what happened. It's there to tell you what it wants you to hear or what it thinks you want to hear.”
― Joss Whedon
171 posted on 06/07/2014 2:35:24 AM PDT by Al Hitan ("you did it to me")
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To: boatbums

I’m with you on this one

Even if the causes of death were legit....bury in a septic tank?

I would not bury my communist cousin in San Fransisco in the septic tank

Something stinks.....that’s not a joke....this sure ain’t funny


172 posted on 06/07/2014 2:46:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: boatbums

It is truly sad the usual suspects are so eager to swallow what the media feeds them, as long as it is against the Church. One of them jumped to the conclusion this was due to abortion and has assigned that keyword to this thread. At least some of the truth is starting to come out.

‘I never used that word ‘dumped’,” Catherine Corless, a local historian in Co Galway, tells The Irish Times. “I never said to anyone that 800 bodies were dumped in a septic tank. That did not come from me at any point. They are not my words.”

Between them the boys levered up the slab. “There were skeletons thrown in there. They were all this way and that way. They weren’t wrapped in anything, and there were no coffins,” he says. “But there was no way there were 800 skeletons down that hole. Nothing like that number. I don’t know where the papers got that.” How many skeletons does he believe there were? “About 20.”

This building was an old workhouse before it was an orphanage, but I’m sure there are some here who “know” these 20 skeletons were dumped there by nuns after performing abortions.


173 posted on 06/07/2014 6:07:30 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums; Jim Robinson; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; ...

“Does JR know you hound and harass people you think have money? It’s creepy!”

Let’s ask him? Jim - did you know that one poster here claims that I “hound and harrass” people here who have money?

(I don’t, but that is the nasty claim by the hater who jumps on every anti-Catholic thread and seems to buy ever anti-Catholic slander published.)

I have pinged my list as they can help either confirm or deny ‘bums claim that I am a “creepy harrasser”!


174 posted on 06/07/2014 6:11:38 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

Wow. So you consider being cremated or buried in an individual wooden coffin to be *worse* than having the body crammed into a feces-and-urine storage tank with hundreds of other corpses. Your grasp of reality is so poor I don’t think there’s any point in attempting to communicate with you.


175 posted on 06/07/2014 7:20:59 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: Sloth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_fetus_disposal_scandal

http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/2014/03/soulless-bodies-aborted-babies-burned-heat-uk-hospitals/

You want more?


176 posted on 06/07/2014 8:59:07 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums; narses

Perhaps you would like to read this article before swallowing the AP, Washington Post and NY Times reports whole

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tuam-mother-and-baby-home-the-trouble-with-the-septic-tank-story-1.1823393?page=1


177 posted on 06/07/2014 9:00:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: crazycatlady

Here is a more level-headed article about this. Certainly not the hyperventilating propaganda of the AP

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tuam-mother-and-baby-home-the-trouble-with-the-septic-tank-story-1.1823393?page=1


178 posted on 06/07/2014 9:01:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Thanks.


179 posted on 06/07/2014 9:02:37 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Sloth

Maybe you should read a more level-headed version of the story, instead of AP propaganda

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tuam-mother-and-baby-home-the-trouble-with-the-septic-tank-story-1.1823393?page=1


180 posted on 06/07/2014 9:06:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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