Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Today, I had a conversation with an investigator from the Cold Case Posse in AZ. We talked and I expanded on several dossiers filled with evidence for over an hour. They asked for all of my relevant information on Obama, the Harry Bounel alias evidence, and the dossiers I completed on Stanley Ann Dunham, her parents, and Michelle Obama as well. They have it all. BTW they also say that it looks like my information cannot be disproved and will be useful.
I have proof, definitive proof that Stanley Ann Dunham was in WA state in "1961" as per the issuance of a SSN numident in her name with the SSN 535-40-8522. There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Source, please. Speculation isn't the truth.
That old dog gets trotted out again? That excuse is getting old.
Besides, I've been told that it's all been released and all you have to know is where to look.
I thought, now isn't surprising to see Flotsam talk about Seizethecrap that way...
Really? how so?
Ummmm, I asked a question.
not only a clown, but an ignorant clown?
Okay, similar question since you're so informed...
Regarding reply 605...isn't that all conjecture?
At least you have the courage to directly call me a clown.
Just par for your course. All slander, no facts...just opinion.
Where is the evidence to back it up? His book?
Are the book and video conjecture or truth?
And the four images below are all of the same little boy, what-ever you may call him, he's the same child:
A rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name.
You’re losing it, #605 was mine. I won’t be posting a bibliography for the entire comment, the majority is written from memory because it’s common knowledge.
Pretty professional looking. From whence do those images originate? A particular book, perchance?
Common to whom?
Once again...is it speculation?
So you have no links after all?
The boy on the left is the child Mark identified as 'David'
And? Does his mere statement make it true? Could he have lied?
And the four images below are all of the same little boy...
Who says so? YOU?!
Brother David
The deceased David Obama is a brother of Mark Ndesandjo. Both Mark and David are the sons of Ruth and Obama Sr., and half-brothers of Obama. When she remarried the boys took their step-fathers name but when David became a teen he rebelled against his mothers American ways and renamed himself David Obama.
You say...The boy on the left is the child Mark identified as 'David'
There's a point there...kind of like Eddie Munster.
Just a thought. And I could be wrong.
Look at the distance between the two women’s eyes and their eyebrows. It’s not possible to change that, and the model’s eyebrows are about a half-inch higher than SAD’s.
SAD’s eyes have droopy corners, while the model’s are elfin.
And then there is the chin and jawbone structure comparison, which clenches the fact that these are two different women.
You still haven’t explained how your “darker boy” Roman could have been in Kenya in 1964 with baby Barry, the supposed son of Malcolm X, with BHO Sr. and with Ruth.
You have no explanation on the record as to who Roman’s mom is or what happened to her.
You have no evidence that Malcolm X and Valerie Sasrruf were ever in a relationship and especially in 1960 when POTUS Barry was conceived.
POTUS Barry is documented to be in the White House via links to the Chicago Communist Party USA, a KGB run outfit and NOT a Muslim conspiracy, IMO. It is a communist sonspiracy implemented by FMD, Bill Ayers and Vernon Jarrett that made Barry president.
There isn’t a shred of evidence that POTUS Barry is an observant Muslim or wants Sharia anywhere outside the crony socialist Arab states. He is sympathetic to the secular socialist Muslims that were aligned with the USSR in the cold war such as the PLO.
BHO Sr. was a hard-drinking communist who married twice to non-Muslims including one Jewish woman and her two sons were raised Jewish according to Mark who self-identifies as Jewish.
But, again, how is it possible that a picture of the “darker boy” taken with POTUS Barry in Kenya in 1964 with BHO Sr. and Ruth???
“Thanks for the Ping.
Sven should go next, and indeed should have gotten the hammer long, long ago for incessantly putting up posit after posit as if they are fact, without any supporting documenation/link.
Hiding behind a supposed fear of violating the Privacy Act when the fate of the entire nation hangs in the balance doesnt wash. If youve got the goods, drop them and let The Powers That Be publicly prosecute you for their unlawful possession/release. The courtroom drama would do the Republic much good.”
AdminModerator;
I’ve been very patient with ConcernedFreepers lobbying for me to violate the Privacy Act. I’ve explained to them violating the Privacy Act will not accomplish their goal of submitting evidence to any Court or any administrative proceeding in the United States.
Evidence obtained illegally is inadmissible. Obtaining evidence protected by the Privacy Act is illegal. Lobbying a person to obtain evidence illegally is conspiracy to commit a crime. Since Obama’s Certificate of Naturalation issued to him in 1983 is a Federal document, lobbying others to obtain and publish a document protected by the Privacy Act is a Federal crime.
Please review the post of Flotsam_Jetsome and Wildhiglander57. They are is clearly lobbying me to commit a Federal crime and post Obama’s private records. While posting his private records will be gratuitous and salacious, it cannot be used in Court because it was illegally obtained. I’ve explained to many ConcernedFreepers a method to obtain Obama’s private records legally, through a civil suit, and it upsets them.
In a civil suit, the allegations made in a complaint are considered to be true until they are successfully defended by the defendant(s). Obama’s private records; specifically, his Certificate of Naturalization, can be subpoenaed if the civil suit survives a motion to dismiss.
ConcernFreepers have been able to maintain the false narrative a civil suit against Obama can only be successfull if his private records are posted publicly before trail. Ironically, a judge in a civil suit doesn’t need pre-trial evidence because the allegations in the complaint are considered to be true while the judge conducts a hearing for any responsive pleading, i.e. a motion to dismiss. The allegations are considered to be true until a defendant successfully demonstrates the allegations not to be true. It is during the discovery process, after a hearing on any responsive pleading, the plaintiff may legally obtain a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization.
Send a message, AdminModerator. Let the ConcernedFreepers know statements of fact are acceptable on FreeRepublic.com and lobbying Freepers to commit a Federal Crime is not acceptable on FreeRepublic.com.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Then why don’t you file the civil suit?
I can’t believe how “off the rails” the research into BHO’s background becomes as time moves on.
This Mal-Val story just seems like a distraction that has served to discredit and derail people like Joe Arpaio, who have credible arguments and evidence.
It’s obvious that something is wayyyyy off and that there are more holes in BHO’s backround than in a block of swiss cheese. We have wandered quite far from where the truth lies IMHO and I will try to stay as close to Occam’s razor as possible:
Believing that after realizing his potential related to the 2004 Dem.Convention Speech, the behind the scenes liberal,socialist, and communist power brokers went into high gear erasing the past of this immigrant boy who they saw had Presidential Potential. His parent’s were loose, amoral, sexually-deviant, drugged and drunk hippies who did not have the potential to hatch a scheme or even carrying out a plan as complicated as the “Mal-Val theory”.
I don’t know where many on the ping list stand because there are too many people to follow. You may completely disagree with me but I responded to your post because it seems you dismiss Mal-Val at the very least.
Godspeed.
JD
Oh, no, no, no. That is not how it works!
I am not a lawyer, but just watching Judge Judy will teach you the basics.
If you are suing someone, you need evidence. You can't just waltz in with allegations and expect the judge to side with you. You have to make your case.
If you're suing a wedding caterer for doing an inadequate job, you have to bring in your contract and evidence such as witnesses. Your word alone isn't enough.
Think about the huge patent lawsuits between companies such as Apple and Samsung. Do you think the suing company just comes in alleging that the other company has infringed on their patents and the judge will assume the allegations are true??? Heavens no! The suing company will spend hundreds of hours gathering evidence that they have to present to the court. It's only after they presented their case that the defendant responds.
If the defendant feels that the suing party hasn't presented sufficient evidence, they really don't have to do much. Is someone claims you keyed their car, but they don't know you from Adam and they have no witnesses, all you have to do is say, No, I wasn't there. You would win. They haven't carried their burden.
So no, you can't just go to court and allege that Obama is a naturalized citizen and he would have to produce proof he isn't. You, as the suing party, have to provide sufficient evidence to convince the court of that fact. Allegations are not presumed to be true. Only evidence counts in a court.
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“We have wandered quite far from where the truth lies IMHO and I will try to stay as close to Occams razor as possible:
“Believing that after realizing his potential related to the 2004 Dem.Convention Speech, the behind the scenes liberal,socialist, and communist power brokers went into high gear erasing the past of this immigrant boy who they saw had Presidential Potential.”
I totally agree. I was going to post a comment on your very point that it was only after 2004 that the world-wide effort to remove the Indonesian government documents and Kenyan government and hospital documents took place along with scrubbing the internet of newspaper stories in Kenya and the US claiming a Kenyan birth as well as tightening the Hawaii vital records access illegally.
It was in 2004 that numerous attempts were made via congressional resolutions to declare any person with only one US citizen parent to be POTUS-eligible (which failed).
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