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Who should win the Heisman? Johnny Football or Manti Te'o
ESPN ^ | Sunday, December 2, 2012 | Me

Posted on 12/02/2012 8:39:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican


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To: eyedigress

I already have. Notre Dame would not have had the success it has had this year without Manti. There could be no more inspirational, nor “influential” player on any team.


41 posted on 12/02/2012 9:57:26 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Explain the waste of putting Woodson over Manning in 1997.

Total politics. Manning still wins. The Heisman is crap. Might as well give out a world award. Oh wait.....


42 posted on 12/02/2012 9:58:53 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MrChips

ALA. will rock ND. If they think USC was tough, January is going to hurt.


43 posted on 12/02/2012 10:01:50 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MrChips

I haven’t heard about his arrest record. But that’s a separate issue not pertinent to this question. Two subpar nonconf opponents is to be expected. How many previous Heisman winners played smaller college programs early in the season??
LBs have the butkus award and its a great one. I wouldn’t be against the award going to a Def player or even an O lineman if he clearly was the best player in football. But aside from the “want” to give him the award and his irrelevant “storybook” qualities, his contribution to the team is not equal to Manziel’s for the reasons already given.


44 posted on 12/02/2012 10:03:48 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Ingtar

He won.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 10:08:44 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Reggie White should have took the H.

Didn’t happen

F that trophy


46 posted on 12/02/2012 10:09:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

Yeah, I have heard it all before. See you in Miami.


47 posted on 12/02/2012 10:10:00 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

I don’t waste money. Good Luck.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 10:12:32 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: GodfearingTexan

He had one big game. Two losses. Padded numbers against tiny schools. And the arrest record “not pertinent” to the Heisman? Character issues don’t matter? Tell that to Reggie Bush.


49 posted on 12/02/2012 10:13:45 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Quit barking up the wrong tree.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 10:16:06 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MrChips

Tell me Woodson’s record vs Manning


51 posted on 12/02/2012 10:18:41 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Here are the top three projections based on early data according to Stiff Arm Trophy. a site that's been correct since 2002 in predicting the outcome:
    name	first	second	third	ballots	points	Projected   %
J Manziel	11	1	2	14	37	1785	64.1%
C Klein	        1	1	8	10	13	891	32.0%
M Te'o	        4	6	2	12	26	684	24.6%

52 posted on 12/02/2012 10:20:13 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In a just world, Manti Teo would get the award. He won’t, and the Heisman people should stop pretending that the award is for anything other than offensive backs.


53 posted on 12/02/2012 10:23:15 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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To: MrChips

Obviously you shoot 5,000 to the underdog. Right

Good Luck HR


54 posted on 12/02/2012 10:24:02 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MrChips

I don’t know squat about his history with the cops. I just know that he has done more to help TAMU win than has LB guy for ND.

And by the way, had Oklahoma not had so many people running the ball, MacDonald wouldve been more competitive against PH in the voting! Its a well known fact that ND poisoned OU’s food the night before the game, nov 15, 1957. Did Hornung win in ‘56? The year OU beat them 40-0 without the aid of food poisoning?

LB guy needs a few less tattoos. Smacks of bad character. Body is a temple made. In God’s image, ya know. Especially at a Catholic school.

I’m just getting your bp up. I predict Manziel will win the Heisman and Alabama will win the game. But that doesn’t mean LB guy isn’t any good.


55 posted on 12/02/2012 10:27:23 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: FredZarguna

After the world screwed Manning for woodson what the hell to you expect.


56 posted on 12/02/2012 10:27:47 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: HGSW0904

Manti Te’o will win in a walk, other than probation Ohio State 12-0 they are the only undefeated team in the country. Notre Dame has alumni and huge fan base, Te’o is a big reason for ND being in Miami for BCS championship.


57 posted on 12/02/2012 10:51:53 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: eyedigress

Johnny Football got his but kicked by LSU, who intercepted him, roughed him up and beat his team. Besides all that he is only a freshman. Teo is undefeated.


58 posted on 12/03/2012 12:13:40 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Fiji Hill

There’s something fundamentally wrong about naming a school the Poets. Where are the people that did that now? Laughing from beyond. At Oregon we called our Ducks the “Fighting Ducks”...give me a break. When was the last time you ever saw a duck fight? They would have been better calling them the fighting geese...at least a goose will try to bite you once in a while.


59 posted on 12/03/2012 3:24:44 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: GodfearingTexan

I haven’t heard about his arrest record. But that’s a separate issue not pertinent to this question. Two subpar nonconf opponents is to be expected. How many previous Heisman winners played smaller college programs early in the season??
LBs have the butkus award and its a great one. I wouldn’t be against the award going to a Def player or even an O lineman if he clearly was the best player in football. But aside from the “want” to give him the award and his irrelevant “storybook” qualities, his contribution to the team is not equal to Manziel’s for the reasons already given.
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Anyone recall Tommy Nobis from the Univ. of TX who went on to star with the Atlanta team in the NFL? Didn’t he win a national award (maybe Butkis?).

How many sub-par opponents has ND played for decades while being independant and not associated with any conference?; LOTS! That’s the only reason they occasionally rise in the rankings from year to year; they set up games with weaker teams throughout the seasons to ensure they will have a winning record.

My vote is for Johnny Football.


60 posted on 12/03/2012 4:33:36 AM PST by octex
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