Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[greyfoxx39]

In the meantime, drop the whole victim hood thing. Whining isn’t conservative. Just be forthright and tell more than half-truths.

I'm gonna start posting a tiny violin every time Jeff falls back on his cancer story to try and turn the conversation away from mormonism. A LOT of FReepers have and DO deal with cancer...it doesn't instill sainthood into ANY of us who are dealing with it.

"Persecution", "victim hood", the fall-back position of any mormon who is challenged to admit to the factual description of Joseph Smith's scam. It's been going on for more than a century, and when Mitt loses they will have even MORE fodder for their whines.

When the votes are all in and Mitt goes down, we will see a tantrum the likes of which FR has never seen before.

[ansel12]

Romney is without doubt the most radically left nominee the GOP has ever had. He is so far left, so far outside of what we thought that we knew about republican politics, that it rewrites the party.

You consider your devotion to him a continuation of your “loyalty” to your party, well, if that is what you are tethered to, then continue performing for them.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I, too, am long past wearied by the sudden spate of cloddish, fumbling attempts to (somehow) wield Ultimate Moral Authority^TM over other FReepers, solely in service of their increasingly dogged and servile supplication to the sheer awesomeness of all things Mittens.

It's the left favorite rhetorical cheat, as best exemplified by their noxious cossetting and cuddling of foul, opportunistic Cindy Sheehan. ("You absolutely MUST bow down before her non-negotiable demands, conservative America! SHE LOST HER SON!!!")

A cheap, desperate ploy for the reader's sentiment, after failing to win the argument via intellect -- nothing more, nothing less.

[greyfoxx39]

The only fact that you ignore is that there are no other books after the Torah. Your Christian bible is a nice story, but that is all it is and JC was a false messiah just as countless others were and continue to be.

Nice! Now we know why you are defending another anti-Christian sect.

Not even 75 years since the last time a bunch of misguided Christians decided to launch a campaign against a religion they didn’t like and you’re sowing the seeds of conspiracy and hatred all over again...

I certainly hope to see you reap what YOU are sowing here....

[Graybeard58]

Murrymom was a joke, tolerated by JimRob for years, for her laugh value. He even posted as much in a reply once.

[Kevmo]

Not a straw argument in the least. By not voting for Romney, you are helping to ensure Obama’s victory. You guys are absolutely prefering Obama.
***In order to prefer 0bama you gotta vote FOR 0bama. So it’s a straw argument.

[colorcountry]

You know, I feel very sorry for Jeff and what he has gone through. Many Mormons who experience this type of thing are overwhelmed by the necessity to DO MORE once they have escaped death.

My Mormon MIL died in April of this year. She was absolutley terrified of death, I mean honestly, I’ve been bedside when my Mormon father died, and my Mormon grandfather, and even though they were very frightened of the judgement that was to come, they were not terrified like MIL. Honestly she screamed and held my arm as we talked about her impending death - she KNEW she wasn’t good enough, she did not know the blessed assurance that Christians know when they face the final moment.

I don’t know where Jeff stands in his relationship to Christ - only Jeff and God have that knowledge, but isn’t it wonderful that today, this very hour, Jeff can fall to his knees before Christ and acknowledge that Christ has done the final work - it is finished, there is nothing left to do but fall lovingly into his arms.

Jeff, I’m here to testify to you that there are no movies to watch, or handshakes through the veil. ..no names you must remember. It is fine with Christ that you have not learned enough to create a world, you don’t have to die thinking that the test is still to come.

[re_nortex]

The DailyKOS hates me, Bill Clinton hates me, President Gore hates me, Dan Rather hates me, President Kerry hates me, Rudy hates me...

A less than exhaustive list of those utterly hating you also includes Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Al Sharpton, Fidel Castro, Barney Frank, Jesse Jackson, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Barak Hussein Obama and Quanell X. Heading the list of those with malice to Jim Robinson is their leader, Satan himself. You enemies list is a badge of honor.

Thank God He still loves me.

Of that there is no doubt. You are on the Lord's side, Jim. The founding principles of Free Republic are in perfect harmony with those of Christianity. You have been a warrior for God, fighting against evil in all forms. The going may get tough at times but Almighty God has Blessed Jim Robinson, his family and his mission. He will continue to do so so long as you remain steadfast and never compromise your Christianity even when it may seem expedient for the moment.

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, 
with the cross of Jesus going on before. 
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe; 
forward into battle see his banners go! 

At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; 
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory! 
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise; 
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise. 

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, 
with the cross of Jesus going on before. 

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“I don’t know where Jeff stands in his relationship to Christ - only Jeff and God have that knowledge, but isn’t it wonderful that today, this very hour, Jeff can fall to his knees before Christ and acknowledge that Christ has done the final work - it is finished, there is nothing left to do but fall lovingly into his arms.”

Agreed wholeheartedly. I want nothing but good for him.

[Kevmo]

I’m Jewish and you supposedly know Torah, so you know I’m good in that department.
***Then read Genesis 49:12. If Shiloh has not yet come then that verse is wrong. That little backtracking trick, that squirming and re-defining what things supposedly mean in the Torah when you’re presented with facts, that is your soul giving you its proper nudge.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Not a straw argument in the least. By not voting for Romney, you are helping to ensure Obama’s victory. You guys are absolutely prefering Obama.
***In order to prefer 0bama you gotta vote FOR 0bama. So it’s a straw argument.”

What are they teaching in schools these days?

[Springfield Reformer]

LOL!

[greyfoxx39]

When you attack a respected poster such as Jeff Head, you've hit rock bottom in disgusting.

Since when is Jeff Head a saint who is above being questioned on his lies about mormonism?

Or, are you elevating him to mormon godhood in THIS life?

If this site doesn't suit you, move along.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

In order to prefer 0bama you gotta vote FOR 0bama.

You're pounding your own head against an unyielding brick wall of obduracy and innumeracy, Kevmo.

Team Mittens' paid online shills steadfastly cling to the long-debunked belief (or claim to, at any rate) that one might somehow increase the volume of the contents in Glass "A" by adding to the amount already within Glass "C."

It's cargo cult-level "thinking," demonstrably. You can't possibly reason them out of it, because they were never reasoned INTO it to begin with. ;)

[palmer]

When the votes are all in and Mitt goes down, we will see a tantrum the likes of which FR has never seen before.

There will be a small minority of Christians who will vote against the Mormon. The rest will vote for a better economy. Neither will decide the election, that's up to the largely clueless "independents"

[CWSNTEXAS]

Mr. Graybeard-

First I was being sarcastic about arrogance and I know Jews are the chosen people. Thanks for that.

Also- I was very touched to see your family. What a wonderful couple you and your wife must be. What blessed young children to have found such a loving family.

To undertake such a task has to be with great love of both your fellow man and G*d. I know you must be proud and I wish you and yours only the best.

[Graybeard58]

Married for 70 years, a couple was sitting on their front porch in their rockers, he turns to her and says, “I’m proud of you”. She slowly turns to him and says, “That’s ok, I’m tired of you too”.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Dorian Gray alert. ;)

[Kevmo]

The only fact that you ignore is that there are no other books after the Torah.
***In the Torah, yes. But another jew came along and claimed to be the messiah, was sentenced to death by the sanhedrin for blasphemy, for claiming equality with God. 3 days later He proved that claim by rising from the dead. Hence, there are these other books written about Him. What I wrote above are all facts. The only fact that jews do not acknowledge is that He raised from the dead. So go ahead and examine the evidence with that fact in reserve, if you prefer.

Your Christian bible is a nice story, but that is all it is and JC was a false messiah just as countless others were and continue to be.
***Feel free to prove that assertion. In the meantime, it is the deity of Christ that we uphold, and it is that very issue which mormons deny. It is no coincidence that you come here and drive up through that schism.

But as long as you are righteous and adhere to Noahide law, you have a place in the world to come as a non-Jew. Just like the Mormons, the Southern Baptists, and even the Muslims have a share.
***Thank you for preaching to us. It is your duty as a jew to bring God’s message to the world. Part of the reason why God transferred that duty to christianity was because jews didn’t do it. Now all you need to do is get the story correct. That story is: Jesus was more than just the jewish messiah, he was God himself. Now, if that story is NOT true then we are properly condemned by God for presenting it. So... prove that it is not true.

Not even 75 years since the last time a bunch of misguided Christians
***Christians, yeah right, NAZIs were christians. Bowlsheet. Here you prove that cults which steal from christianity are extremely, utterly dangerous to mankind and yet you give us a hard time for exposing the mormon cult.

decided to launch a campaign against a religion they didn’t like and you’re sowing the seeds of conspiracy and hatred all over again...
***Again, Here you prove that cults which steal from christianity are extremely, utterly dangerous to mankind and yet you give us a hard time for exposing the mormon cult.

[CWSNTEXAS]

You are an idiot. I’m assuming you know “Norma” was a CHARACTER not a real person. The true person, Gloria Swanson, would probably be 120 if she were still alive.

Comparing my age to her (or Norma for that matter who was getting on up there in the 50’s) was with tongue in cheek.

You are truly just not smart.