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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Elsie
Could you clarify one more thing....in the following sentence...

"I, myself, do not KNOW the details, but I CAN report what the BIBLE says, and I DID report what BY said."

Are the oddly spaced WORDS IN CAPS the digital manifestation of Tourette's?

2,741 posted on 08/13/2012 2:07:40 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: moovova; Jim Robinson
Jesus is ashamed of all of you.


2,742 posted on 08/13/2012 2:09:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SZonian

There are many religions in this world and who is ANYONE to say who is saved. Eph 2:8-9. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God — 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

God is a discerner of your mind. Cannot an Arab or a Mormon be saved if he has faith in God?

Are we to judge who God grants his gift?

People better get over themselves!!!!!!

Are we causing global warming? I think not because God is in charge of this universe. Dan 4:17.


2,743 posted on 08/13/2012 2:10:05 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: ansel12
I was repeating a simple question, trying to see if you troll like this on non-Romney threads.

Romney seems to bring out the worst in you people.

You people? That's racist./s

Yes, that's right, I waited almost 14 years to troll the likes of you.

You're right. I should know my place.

2,744 posted on 08/13/2012 2:10:52 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Learn about MORMONism:


 

The Second Book of Nephi

Chapter 25:23

 For we labor diligently to write, to apersuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by bgrace that we are saved, after all we can cdo.


2,745 posted on 08/13/2012 2:11:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wtc911

Maybe; look it up.

It was, however, a DIRECT answer to a question of yours.

Did it satisfy your request or not?


2,746 posted on 08/13/2012 2:13:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The red dots show all foreclosures in process

Vallejo , California -- 1 in 16 homes in foreclosure

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Tampa , Florida -- 1 in 20 homes in foreclosure

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Stockton , California -- 1 in 14 homes in foreclosure

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Sacramento , California -- 1 in 19 homes in foreclosure

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Riverside , California -- 1 of 14 homes in foreclosure

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Reno , Nevada -- 1 in 16 homes in foreclosure

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Phoenix , Arizona -- 1 in 14 homes in foreclosure

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Orlando , Florida -- 1 in 15 homes in foreclosure

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Naples , Florida -- 1 in 18 homes in foreclosure

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Miami , Florida -- 1 in 14 homes in foreclosure

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Las Vegas , Nevada -- 1 in 9 homes in foreclosure

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Bakersfield , California -- 1 in 17 homes in foreclosure

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Sarasota , Florida -- 1 in 21 homes in foreclosure

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USA -- 1 in 46 homes in foreclosure

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And some people want to give him another 4 years!!

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2,747 posted on 08/13/2012 2:16:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: exit82

If this is the best service that you can give Romney, it isn’t helpful to him.


2,748 posted on 08/13/2012 2:17:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: mojitojoe

What’s yer point?

How many walked away, fully ABLE to pay for their little kingdoms, but unwilling to do so because they could not re-sell, at this time, for an amount ABOVE what they had PROMISED to pay for?

The young folks have NEVER been taught to save for a rainy day, and it POURED on them.

They had to have it all.

My stepson’s family moved in with my wife and I; two adults and 3 kids; for about two years while we refurbed an older home that they COULD now afford.

I know what folks went thru.


2,749 posted on 08/13/2012 2:22:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: New Jersey Realist; Jeff Head

Tell that to Jeff Head, he and the LDS think its works that saves.


2,750 posted on 08/13/2012 2:22:30 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: mojitojoe; Norm Lenhart
Yup; he lied, baldfaced, about his big goodbye world tour. You totally called it, Norm.

Still hasn't posted those imaginary "screen shots," either. ;)

2,751 posted on 08/13/2012 2:24:07 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Cannot an Arab or a Mormon be saved if he has faith in God?

May I have a shot at that?

He most certainly WILL be saved if he believes that the one and only Jesus of Nazareth (the one of the Holy Bible) is God come in the flesh as a man and if that person acts upon this newly-found Truth by turning from his past sinful ways of error-filled thinking and shows and tells anyone and everyone that he is sincere about his change of mind and continues to follow after Jesus, and doesn't go back into his old ways of living when hard times hit.

There's more to it but that would be a start. Any other religions in the world besides Christianity that you know of make a claim like that?
2,752 posted on 08/13/2012 2:30:46 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: exit82

There are frequent posters on this thread that are making FR look like a fruitcake factory.
___________________
Understatement!


2,753 posted on 08/13/2012 2:36:39 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Jeff Head; Colofornian; Jim Robinson
The fact that there was an apostacy is one of the best documented facts in religious history as atteted by the quotes of the many very brave and honorable people at the time who risked all, including their lives, and many who lost their lives as a result.

Link? Source?

From the 1400s on, and even earlier fro hundreds of years. in the 1600s and 1700s and into the 1800s, it was one of the principle reasons so many came to these shores. To find religious freedom away from apostate churches.

Link? Source?

It was also something prophesied in the new Testamnent that the day of Christ's return would not come until after there had been a falling away first...and then a restoration.

Link? Source?

The Church in fact reveres many of those reformers and some of the comments they made when rebelling against Rome, or whichever State Church of the day they rebelled against. Wycliff, Huss, Martin Luther, Calvin, Smyth, John Wesley and so many others. Links? Sources?

Just wanted, for the sake of complete explanation and information to make sure that whole story got told as well.

Jeff, you quite often make generalize/specific pronouncements as "facts" but do not provide the source for these facts. Please do so.

Yes, we believe Christ Himself told Joseph Smith that

The crux of the matter is that presenting "belief" as fact just doesn't cut it, the way your accusation that JR supported Romney didn't cut it.

The LDS love Christ...and are simply trying to do the same. Nothing more sinister to it than that. You can either believe that as honestly and sincerely stated to you by someone who has been involved with the Church for 42 years and held several leadership positions in it over that time...or you can continue with this devisive and reviling attitude.

The typical response....any facts presenting a negative picture of mormonism are "devisive and reviling" while 52,000 mormon missionaries are going about the world telling Christians that their Christian faith is false and the only way to salvation is through mormonism....

I call THAT "reviling and devisive". And, again you choose to duck and run.

2,754 posted on 08/13/2012 2:40:13 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Elsie; Colofornian

Have you noticed that nobody reads that crap that you flood the thread with? Also, have you noticed that there is barely anyone posting on this thread now except for you and your few other fringe lunatics? Have you also noticed that people( good freepers who aren’t batsh*t crazy) are leaving FR by the droves so they won’t be associated with a site that is bordering on being like a hate site that I won’t name?

You are preaching to an empty room. Nobody is listening. I came back to this thread because I got emails telling me to check out the crazies. Do you know that you were mentioned on Twitter last night as being a scary, crazy person?

Have fun on FR preaching to an empty choir and I hope that you are going to kick in the donations for all the people that you drove off who took their donations with them. That goes for your pal colofornian too. And the liberal troll from Seattle, whatever his name is.

I can’t believe how FR self imploded due to the likes of you and your handful ......VERY small handful of pals.

R&R 2012! ABO 2012! I will be elsewhere exposing the Kenyan Commie every chance I get and you may carry on posting crap that nobody reads.

It must suck to be you. I hope you seek help. There are meds and counseling that may help you. You’re certifiably NUTS.


2,755 posted on 08/13/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You’re ignorant. How in the hell do you post a PDF screenshot of a thread? What an idiot! Do you know HUGE that screenshot is? I can post the copy and past word version if you want, but it’s going to take up enough space as the original thread and double the pages.

I love how you all try to run off anyone that doesn’t agree with you...liberal troll. you always were, you always will be. Enjoy voting for your Kenyan fag, he will lose.


2,756 posted on 08/13/2012 3:01:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe
And the liberal troll from Seattle, whatever his name is.

You (supposedly) have hard evidence of my being a "liberal" -- something somehow escaping the combined notice of both JimRob AND every last Moderator to have worked here over the past decade -- to the point where you even claim to have "screen shots" of same, which you (likewise) swore you would be posting immediately... but now you claim you don't even know my NAME -- ?!?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Hasta, weasel.

2,757 posted on 08/13/2012 3:02:42 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Elsie

I may return from time to time to post HUGE board flooding things about the Kenyan in response to yours. Or maybe not.

See ya fruit cake!


2,758 posted on 08/13/2012 3:04:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe
How in the hell do you post a PDF screenshot of a thread?

Beats me, weasel. It was your promise; not mine.

You lied. You got busted, righteously. Stop sniveling and blubbering about it, and sack up, for heaven's sake.

Enjoy voting for your Kenyan fag, he will lose.

I've stated numerous times on this site how I'll be voting, and -- quelle surprise! -- it ain't for Obama.

But you lied, of course.

Pfffffftt. Done, peanut.

2,759 posted on 08/13/2012 3:07:15 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mojitojoe; exit82

So why do you guys keep posting then?


2,760 posted on 08/13/2012 3:09:08 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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