Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Ryan is a great pick but he could pick my Aunt Tilly and still get my vote against Obama.
All of “U.S. conservatism” is a loser, no matter what one decides to do with the ‘12 POTUS race, and that’s the ongoing problem!
“Sorry, but I will not reward Liars with my vote.”
All well and good. However with the Obama/Biden ticket winning the country becomes Greece. So you have to decide which is more important to you. Saving your country or your hatred of Mitt.
Ping.
I agree with you 100%. I’m over this crap.
“I’M STILL VOTING FOR ROMNEY!!!”
Likewise. No one could despise Mormons or Romney any more than I despise the arrogant Communist in the White House. THAT’S my motivation, not affinity for Romney or anyone else in the GOP.
God Bless you Jim Robinson. I don’t say that lightly because I know HE will.
I am SO THANKFUL for this post of yours. I was beginning to lose heart in my fight against Obama and Romney on FR. As I keep telling the ABO crowd, they aren’t going to like a Romney administration and will have serious buyer’s remorse if they get one. Of course, will ALL know that having Obama to continue as POTUS will be a horrific thing.
I’m sorry to see Ryan agree to go along with being a second banana to Romney. I think it hurts his credibility as a conservative champion of fiscal conservatism. I think it was a very clever ploy on Romney’s part to “flip” him to the dark side. However, I will not engage in rhetoric against Ryan. Him being the VP will NOT moderate Romney’s leftest ways. It just lulls more “full conservatives” (being Social, national defense, and fiscal) into drinking the cyanide laced Romney Koolaid....stirred to a deadly concentration by the GOP establishment that produced him.
Romney, however, continues to be fair game and I will continue to attack his liberal record on abortion, homosexuality, big government statism....and his Mormon cultic ties. All these past stances (and his religious beliefs) define what kind of POTUS he would be....and it isn’t much of an improvement over Obama. Certainly not enough to back him - he just isn’t a tolerable option for a real conservative.
I will be voting third party for the office of POTUS this November.
Again, “may the Lord Bless and keep you, and make His face to shine upon you.”
Obama can not be given four more years to destroy the fabric of traditional America. That is my position and I will vote accordingly.
Roger that!!!!!
Of course you are not an Obama lover, don't let anyone say that without a strong challenge. But, if you vote for Obama because of your disdain for Romney, then it doesn't matter. The same holds true if you fail to vote or if you vote for some third party nobody. You get very few very important choices in this life. This election is one. Don't screw it up.
I stumbled upon a site that clarifies his record and makes this claim:
If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.
When exactly was that?
I’ve been done over trying to state what you have said.
Seems to me that the GOP is saying to the south and the base
Shut up you have no where to go, we don’t give a damn about your social policies or views and after all where you going to go anyway.
The GOP to me is also saying we care about the pockets and to hell with social issues, who cares if we have cross dressers in the military , having homo parties on the base, who cares about people killing babies etc
Hannity and other others have no balls to mention conservative social issues and the elitist GOP for damn sure couldn’t careless as they don’t want to upset their liberal and fecal sex pals.
Obama, on the other hand, is flat out evil and will pay a heavy price one day for pretending to be a Christian.
It really seems that God has given this country a very perplexing final exam question.
“Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I’m a bigot.”
I agree fully. If someone comes on here spewing Scientology/Jehovah’s Witness/Mormon cult garbage, then I guess that makes me a “bigot” for not believing their lies. Ok.
“All well and good. However with the Obama/Biden ticket winning the country becomes Greece. So you have to decide which is more important to you. Saving your country or your hatred of Mitt.”
If that was really the choices, I would pick the country. Unfortunately, the evidence is that Mittens will kill the conservative movement. It used to be the Democrats were the enemy within the gate who we had to expose. Nowdays they don’t even hide it. The new Enemy within the gate is the GOPe with progressives like Romney, who gimmick their way into power and do the same thing the Dems used to do just a few years ago.
Sorry, I’m not playing that futile game. You can, though.
Correct. And we set up Ryan for the presidency in 4 or 8 years (likely 8). And that’s bad? People on this forum would not vote for Romney and foreclose on that possibility...stunning shortsightedness. Baby steps folks....it’s all we got. Hold your nose and go to the polls and cast your vote AGAINST Obama if that’s how you need to look at it.
This is hard for so many of us who are long, medium and short-term freepers. I know we go through this every once in awhile here with various issues and/or candidates and it’s understandable when we have heart-felt beliefs, values and principles- and sometimes they differ- strongly.
I wish we were all on the same side here- but we’re not. It’s kind of tough because I make use of your website every day- have for years and yet I know somehow I’m not welcome because I don’t believe what you do about this presidential candidate and you’ve made it clear what you think and by default I guess, what you think of those of us who disagree.
While he is far from a perfect man, I believe Paul Ryan has character and principles. And so, I don’t believe he would associate himself with a man (much less agree to be his partner and put himself and his family through what will be a grueling ordeal of campaigning) who is as horrible as many freepers think Romney and Mormans are.
I know I won’t be able to persuade anyone to change their mind about this- and my mind is equally made up as well.
I know very little about Mormanism, but I do happen to know a few Mormans casually. They’re hardworking, fair and just plain nice folks. What goes on in the inner reaches of Salt Lake City is none of my damn business- it’s not my church.
I’m sorry you aren’t able to celebrate with us today Jim- or at least with some of us.
I love FR and yet again I’m getting the feeling that maybe I don’t fit.
I’ve been done over trying to state what you have said.
Seems to me that the GOP is saying to the south and the base
Shut up you have no where to go, we don’t give a damn about your social policies or views and after all where you going to go anyway.
The GOP to me is also saying we care about the pockets and to hell with social issues, who cares if we have cross dressers in the military , having homo parties on the base, who cares about people killing babies etc
Hannity and other others have no balls to mention conservative social issues and the elitist GOP for damn sure couldn’t careless as they don’t want to upset their liberal and fecal sex pals.
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