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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: TigersEye
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

That's what Irey claimed ~ not that there were DIFFERENT FONTS.

There is a clear average size difference ~ it's minute but it is apparent to anyone familiar with the world of manually typewritten records.

You get a worn out electric you can get similar variations, but they'll be more uniformly applied, and the row alignments will be crisper.

One Freeper above mentioned that if this document is actually drawn from a data source, in part, that existed as a microfiche image, the simple act of using that microfiche could have distorted the character images at the margins of visibility.

We have earlier threads that deal with the effect of fixed focal length lenses on documents like this. There's no reason to not go back and read them!

421 posted on 06/08/2011 5:25:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: El Sordo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ud4gZQcPac


422 posted on 06/08/2011 5:25:44 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: TigersEye; Brown Deer

No one has claimed “different fonts” ~ just a very slight difference in apparent size.


423 posted on 06/08/2011 5:30:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brown Deer

I guess 0bama’s abstract is perfectly legit then. So many on the thread are defending every anomaly as normal and natural occurances.


424 posted on 06/08/2011 5:32:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: muawiyah
That's what Irey claimed ~ not that there were DIFFERENT FONTS.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

Thanks for bringing it back to the point. Typefaces.

425 posted on 06/08/2011 5:33:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Brown Deer
I liked that movie. Nice use of a Johnny Cash reference.

Though the ending caught me by surprise. I had myself figuring that it would end up being an audio book on his iPod.

426 posted on 06/08/2011 5:35:57 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Jim Robinson
You’re going to find that type written text does not fare well when scanned and digitized.

I guess that's why a PDF search within these typewritten texts usually finds what I'm looking for?
427 posted on 06/08/2011 5:45:19 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: TigersEye
Irey simply confirms my first take back when this first came out ~ that the typewritten parts were done by two machines.

There are other parts that are preprinted, or done with rubber stamps ~ I am really bothered that we have so many folks who appear to have no familiarity with the old fashioned sequential numbering machines and daters.

Were they ALL sales reps or what?

428 posted on 06/08/2011 5:46:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: little jeremiah

No, I would say the anomalies are definitely abnormal.


429 posted on 06/08/2011 5:47:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: muawiyah
Irey simply confirms my first take back when this first came out ~ that the typewritten parts were done by two machines.

Based on typefaces not dirt.

There are other parts that are preprinted, or done with rubber stamps ~ I am really bothered that we have so many folks who appear to have no familiarity with the old fashioned sequential numbering machines and daters.

You're obviously bothered by a lot of things but Irey only addressed the typed parts of the document.

430 posted on 06/08/2011 5:49:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Brown Deer

Funny thing, they can still be read by the human eye, too. Misshapen, deformed characters, anomalies and all. Doesn’t mean they’re forgeries.


431 posted on 06/08/2011 5:50:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m a non-tech person just trying to follow the discussion. Just from what I’ve read it looks fake to me.


432 posted on 06/08/2011 5:51:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TigersEye

Hes a hot lead type kind of guy. I doubt he had much experience with rubber stamps.


433 posted on 06/08/2011 5:52:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TigersEye

If we don’t see things their way we are ‘birthers’ and screwballs or idiots. That does not really matter really though because the muslim boy hussein lovin’ trolls are like that Tiger. They are doing the work of their Daily KOSack comrades or the DUmp’s RATS, or by the DNC itself, to disrupt FR and try to discourage FReepers who wish to see our Country’s Constitution upheld. They fool no one.


434 posted on 06/08/2011 5:54:26 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

And if I don’t see things your way, am I an Obot? A muslim boy hussein lovin troll? A KOSack comrade? Or just a constitution-hating FR disrupter?


435 posted on 06/08/2011 5:59:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: muawiyah

He didn’t say anything about rubber stamps. That’s your straw man argument again.


436 posted on 06/08/2011 6:00:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: muawiyah
No one has claimed “different fonts” ~ just a very slight difference in apparent size.

Go look again! The characters are not, just of different size.

That's what Irey claimed ~ not that there were DIFFERENT FONTS.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said.

btw, font and typeface are almost the same. A typeface is the primary design, while the font is the implementation and variation of the typeface.

Maybe you should stick to a subject that you know something about.
437 posted on 06/08/2011 6:02:18 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
The Library of Congress has been digitizing old books in their collection for quite some time. Building I worked in had some of Schwartzkopf's intelligence folks "doing stuff". One of the guy's father was deeply involved in that digitizing effort.

He was always good for a tale or two about the Library of Congress. He related that the major problem was in figuring out how to READ the old stuff so that digitized text in ancient fonts or lead type of all sorts could be read.

I am not an expert in this but the basic idea is that you "read" the text in a number of places to be able to identify the entire data set of all the characters that would be found in the document.

That data set is then matched up with standard OCR programming.

You call up the ancient book, the OCR process clicks in and reads the text in the native fonts just like it was all current and up to date modern standard fonts.

They then associate the full OCR'd text with the visible text, and that enables you to quickly find material in the book while thinking you are reading it in the native printing.

The LOC was then able to do a quick and dirty on a vast number of books where a complete "read" wouldn't be processed except for commonly accessed works. If someone wanted to look at an infrequently read document then the OCR software would do the job for you.

The idea was that eventually everything would be OCRd, but all in due course, and as cheap as possible within the framework of the LOC budget.

Indiana University was in the business of digitizing a vast number of pictures ~ they had one of the world's premiere collections. Yale is doing that with their unique sets. Presumably other universities are doing the same thing.

There the problem is you need a deck of super computers on hand to handle the data stream for compression.

438 posted on 06/08/2011 6:04:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brown Deer
I gave you the money quote ~ he said the work wasn't done with just one typewriter.

Stick with that.

439 posted on 06/08/2011 6:05:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brown Deer
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that,"

Maybe not, but a scanner and software to digitize and store it can--and does.

440 posted on 06/08/2011 6:05:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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