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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: Auntie Mame
There is no way on a manual typewriter anyone would be able to partially type a word and then take the paper out and put it back in and line it up perfectly to continue on typing the word without it being noticeable on the page. It just doesn’t happen on a typewriter, no matter how excellent the typist is.

Thank you for that astute observation Auntie Mame! I agree 100% - this is the one article that clinched it for me, because I know better.

There is no way anyone, or any group of clerical workers, would start typing a form on one typewriter, rip it out of the machine before finishing the word, then take it over to a completely different typewriter and try to line it back up to finish the word. NONE. Despite the assurances of some obvious bots on this thread that would have us believe that not only was that done, but was done routinely! Absolute absurdity!!

281 posted on 06/08/2011 4:51:23 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: TigersEye
I’ve asked muawiyah twice to explain why there are different typefaces on the same lines and within the same words but she’s not going to touch that one.

I've noticed that. Instead she wants everyone to believe that all the typists in the clerical pool down at the Hawaii DOH back in 1961 would routinely run around half-typing documents, jumping around from typewriter to typewriter.

282 posted on 06/08/2011 4:54:23 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: CanaGuy

Regarding post #241, yes it goes without saying alignment and so forth has been discussed in previous articles and you bring up the obvious issues.

But this newer article, the different typefaces, is the one that hits me even more than alignment issues. You just can’t change the typefaces, particularly within a word, on the same typewriter. Not in 1961. And even if you had the one typewriter then that COULD have done it, the IBM selectric, it wouldn’t have been doable or routine even then. Just not possible.

While the alignment issue can be argued back and forth, like Dan Rather’s typeface mistake, this multiple typeface mistake on one document is clear proof of forgery.


283 posted on 06/08/2011 5:02:28 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: cynwoody

Why don’t you simplify the copy ... how about “Room temperature IQ (Celsius)”?


Let me guess...resident of Rio Linda?


284 posted on 06/08/2011 7:29:32 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: freedumb2003

I reiterate: there have been no SCOTUS cases addressing this. You are, therefore, mistaken and lying

(/do I really need a sarc tag?)


Dumb and free, living in 2003, who are thee???

I just provided you with a summary of 4 cases and you refer to posters on this thread as constitutional authorities. Really? Have you personally verified their bona fides and you will fully vouch for them?

You need to call the author a liar, Neil B. Turner, Citizens for the Constitution.

I would prefer to tag you with “/L” for LOSER.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/06/07/evidence-broadens-obama-natural-born-conspiracy/


285 posted on 06/08/2011 7:47:00 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: conservativegramma

You and are on the same page, for sure!

I hope there is a lot more like us voting in 2012!

Take care!


288 posted on 06/08/2011 8:17:01 AM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: freedumb2003

Lets go one by one. 1) The debate and eligibility are about ‘natural born’ not ‘native’ born 2)How about recognizing that all these other ‘how abouts’ are seriously tied to Obama and his beliefs. As such it seems to me that anything that will bear on Obama’s politics including his eligibility to have such powerful influence should be open for discussion. People will differ as to importance and personal priorities but it is best ‘to each his own’. 3) I don’t think I am a pouty child or crazy for trying to find if my Constitution is being usurpted.


289 posted on 06/08/2011 8:32:11 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: conservativegramma
This includes: Media representatives; Congress; Hawaii DOH; Secret Service who keep protecting him knowing full well he's a criminal fraud; FBI who refuse to investigate; Judges who have punted on the various court cases; State SOS's who have punted; State legislatures who have punted; Paid Obots who have deliberately sought to deflect, distract, and disrupted forums (yeah even the ones here on FR)...the list is endless and becoming bigger every day.

So let's get this straight so we can fully appreciate the level of crazy you've sunk to:

In your world of delusion, not only is there a giant birth certificate conspiracy, but there is an even more massive conspiracy of threats against virtually all of our conservative radio/TV/print personalities to include Levin, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin, etc, who, because of these threats, remain silent on the birther stuff but are apparently free to attack Hussein on everything else. Further, ALL of these conservative commentators, radio hosts, writers, etc, keep these threats against them super secret instead of going to any authority or letting their audiences know what is going on.

In addition to this giant web of conspiracies you've managed to create in your mind, you believe the President should be hanged - along with some/much of the media, apparently most of Congress, the Secret Service, the FBI, every Judge who rejects these birther claims, almost every state legislature, people who disagree with you about this issue on FR (presumably you think I should be hanged as well), etc. Hanged.

So not only do you believe in goofy conspiracies that reasonable and rational conservatives have long ago dismissed as nonsense, you are arguing for the hanging of the President, most of Congress, and much of the Judiciary. Worse your calling for the hanging of tens of thousands of people who's only crime is rejecting your birth certificate conspiracies and disagreeing with you about the birther issue - and your list of those you want to hang is "becoming bigger every day".

Calling for the hanging of the President and thousands of people (including the Secret Service and FBI) is absolutely irresponsible and has no place on a serious political forum. I am surprised the mods allow you to keep posting this vile crap here.

290 posted on 06/08/2011 8:40:10 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Oh look, how flattering, the troll is responding again. Geez, the white house must be getting worried, now they have you guys working overtime.


291 posted on 06/08/2011 8:54:51 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
Oh look, how flattering, the troll is responding again. Geez, the white house must be getting worried, now they have you guys working overtime.

Oh that's right, another one of your conspiracies - anyone who disagrees with you about the birther stuff on FR is a paid Obama agent.

Well, you've certainly spun yourself an immense web of conspiracy theories, but calling for the hanging of the President, Congress, the Judiciary, the Secret Service, the FBI, state legislatures, etc, takes the crazy to an entirely new level. You are calling for the wide scale killing of those that don't agree with you and it is truly sickening. I am surprised you are allowed to post this kind of thing on FR.

292 posted on 06/08/2011 9:06:32 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

The conspiracy of cover-up is your expertise not mine. It it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Better check back with the white hut, your paycheck is overdue.


293 posted on 06/08/2011 9:09:41 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
The conspiracy of cover-up is your expertise not mine. It it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

You are way, way over the line calling for the hanging of the Secret Service, FBI, etc. If you can't see that then there is probably no helping you, but your sickening talk does not belong on responsible conservative forums.

294 posted on 06/08/2011 9:17:05 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Must have hit a nerve. GOOD.

I'm not interested in conversing with trolls. If you were truly innocent and suffered a mere disagreement, you wouldn't be haunting every birther thread seeking to deflect and disrupt them. You would ignore them as I do topics I don't agree with. That's the polite adult thing to do.

However, you have admitted to me in a previous thread/post that you do this deliberately, your mission in life is to disrupt these threads. There is no reason to do this unless you have an agenda.

You can prove to me I'm wrong by staying off these threads, as long as you don't, you're proving I'm right.

And so henceforth my only reponse to you on any eligibility threads will be to point out trolldom, nothing more, nothing less. If you don't like it, tough rocks.

295 posted on 06/08/2011 9:23:39 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Longbow1969

P.S. Last time I checked the constitution, aiding and abetting is classified as treason. Treason is a hanging offense.

What I’m calling for is an investigation, and indictments, then trial. I’m calling for Congress to do its job.

If you weren’t a troll, you’d be calling for the same thing.


296 posted on 06/08/2011 9:30:01 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: JoeA

Thank you for taking the time to explain it. I had a basic understanding of proportional spacing but only since the home computer age, and you explained it very well. I’ll have to think about it; kerning, sounds like the actual font design, the serifs; I’ve seen it talked about on a font forum where they would try to id fonts for you so you could try to find them and install them on your computer.


297 posted on 06/08/2011 9:32:16 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: conservativegramma
Must have hit a nerve. GOOD.

You are calling for the hanging (killing) of FBI agents, Secret Service agents, most of the Congress, people you don't agree with here at FR, etc.

In additional to being a loopy conspiracy theorist, you are posting absolutely irresponsible calls to hang mass numbers of people - most for simply disagreeing with you regarding birther conspiracy stuff. When you spew the stupid crap you regularly do, expect people to call you out on it. Personally, I don't think your vitriol and irresponsible statements belong on an prominent conservative website like FR. Not my call, but you are way, way over the line.

298 posted on 06/08/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
I can tell you're having trouble seeing the obvious conspiracy involved here...perhaps this will help...

I'm hoping they come out with the Jerome Corsi model...

299 posted on 06/08/2011 9:42:15 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man; Longbow1969; All

I thought both of you guys were fully engaged to beat Obama on the issues for 2012. Apparently you got enough free time to spend on the “birther” threads...


300 posted on 06/08/2011 9:47:39 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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