WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST

Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 

"No Obama birth certificate exists"

ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us? 

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams

Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."

The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-

Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics. 

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.

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[Kenny Bunk]

GG, if a minor child who is an American citizen is adopted into a foreign country, and made a citizen of that country by his parents, that child may still revert to American citizenship upon reaching his majority and choosing to do so.

That has been established by case law. Your American citizenship cannot be taken from a minor child. Upon reaching majority, the child may not choose American citizenship, but has that option.

[curiosity]

It absolutely was. We were a small but distinct group who faced many naysayers.

If you are so sure, then kindly provide a link with an example.

We were here when Berg filed the first lawsuit in August of 2008.

Berg's lawsuit did not make the two-citizen parent argument. It was solely predicated on the (false) notion that Obama wasn't born in the USA.

[rolling_stone]

STFU

[Electric Graffiti]

Along the same lines.......

Questions for Speaker Boehner

Do you know that the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 requires that:

All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

Is there any exception made in that law for any occupation, including President?

Is Obama an employee, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States?

Do you know whether or not Obama is in compliance with current Immigration law? Do you know whether or not Obama has completed a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, and if so, what documents he used as proof of his employment eligibility?

Do you realize that the Form I-9 is very specific about what documents are acceptable?

[wintertime]

No it wasn't.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Are you calling me a liar?

Wow!

I **absolutely** read about here on Free Republic and wrote letters to every representative, my secretary of state, and attorney general. I did this BEFORE the 2008 election.

[Darksheare]

And people wonder how I typo like I do.
I angered the spelling chicken.

[Danae]

During the campaign of 1880, questions were asked about Chester’s birth place, but just as today, those doing the research were looking in the wrong direction. Arthur’s father, William Arthur was a British citizen at the time of the future President’s birth. Born in Ballymena, Ireland in 1796 he would not become a Naturalized citizen until August 31st, 1843. No one ever checked into his immigration status at the time of his son’s birth. Chester Arthur, 14 at the time his father was naturalized, and would surely have known this. Sound somewhat familiar?

No one knew Arthur was not a Natural Born Citizen. No one knew during the campaign or ever until 2008 that William Arthur did not become a Naturalized citizen until his son was 14.

That being said, a number of interviews were published in the Brooklyn Eagle regarding Hinnman, the man principally investigating Arthur. August 1880 is where to start your searching bubba. Clearly August 1880 was before the Nov 1880 elections.

FAIL!

[Faith]

Look, you are the one asking for proof that the discussion about eligibility came up before the election. It is not my need to wade through the backlogs since I know what took place. Therefore, you prove us wrong since that is your goal. As for the Berg lawsuit, it was simply cited as a time frame of reference, not for the quality or specific content of his arguments.

[Danae]

You are the one making the accusations. Back it up or shut up. Do your own research ya little toaddie.

[Flamenco Lady]

I suggest you take the time to go back and research the FR threads leading up to the election if it is really that important to you. I am certain it was discussed here before the fall of 2008. I don’t remember exactly when Berg and Donofrio first filed their lawsuits but I beleive think at least one of them may have been filed before September 2008 and I know it was discussed in those threads here on FR. I think the first lawsuit was addressed by the Supreme Court in about November or December 2008 and it usually takes a while before cases get to the supreme court. I know I was discussing it with my friends before a 4th of July BBQ in 2008, because I had taken some of the stuff I had printed off to the BBQ. Doesn’t make much difference anyway when people started talking about it.

I need to go out for a bit, so I won’t be able to respond to posts sent to me for a while.

[rolling_stone]

I called my congressperson and senator and they had no idea if Pres, VP Senators Congressmen had to fill out an I-9 and they could not point me to the right place to find out..

[little jeremiah]

Sven Magnussen differs and has shown sources that support his contention.

[Faith]

Berg filed his lawsuit on August 21, 2008.

[Kenny Bunk]

Like everyone else, I learned that a natural born citizen is anyone who is born a citizen.

I refer you to the Constitution: There is a scale of qualifications for Federal elected offices. Any sort of citizen can qualify for any Federal office, except the Presidency, by satisfying residency and age requirements. In other words, a naturalized citizen, or a native-born citizen can become a Representative, or a Senator.

To become President,however, the Constitution clearly states that one is required to be a Natural Born Citizen. Therefore, there is a difference between a Natural Born Citizen and a Native Born Citizen, not to mention a naturalized citizen. But it is fair to say that there is no explicit definition offered in the document, except by differentiation. Most likely because the Founders took Natural Born Citizenship for granted. BTW, they knew they were not. You might find, in researching the source materials used by the Founders, "Natural Born Citizen" would then take on a much clearer meaning.

You, no doubt because of your most excellent education in the 1980's secondary schools of southern California, are joining a band of scholars who feel that a Native Born Citizen IS a Natural Born Citizen, a claim usually based on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment. If such is indeed found to be the case, well then, your side shall have won! Good news! Your side may even be in the majority. Let's see what the courts decide, when they get around to it.

Barak Hussein Obama, Jr. had the choice, upon reaching his majority, of choosing British, Kenyan, Indonesian, or American Citizenship. No such choice would be available to a Natural Born Citizen. There is no record of a choice being made. But assuming he chose American citizenship, that would not make him a Natural Born citizen.

However, although I think Barak Hussein Obama, Jr. is Constitutionally ineligible, he does hold the office, and is the sitting POTUS. He probably will remain in office until 2012, by which time Natural Born Citizenship shall have been much more precisely and publicly defined, perhaps by several states. At that time, we'll see who is eligible and who is not.

[Jim Noble]

American peasants do it all the time for many reasons. So?...Why doesn't Obama?

I've always thought that was the weakest part of birtherism.

No legitimate authority (meaning, with the power to compel production) has requested the BC. The loudest demands have come from Obama's bitterest enemies.

Napoleon said, "Never do what your enemy wishes, for this reason alone - that he wishes it".

That is a simple and direct reason for Obama to refuse - to give the finger to his enemies and say, "n'yah, n'yah - can't make me".

Don't bother replying that production is required - you and I both know it isn't (yet).

[Danae]

Then why is it differientiated in the Constutition?

You are SO fail.

[Electric Graffiti]

“I called my congressperson and senator and they had no idea if Pres, VP Senators Congressmen had to fill out an I-9 and they could not point me to the right place to find out..”

Amazing....They’re not following their own laws. Why am I not surprised.