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To: antiRepublicrat
Trend? WHAT trend? PC sales are STILL increasing at 27%+ per year. Since 90%+ of all PCs ship with Windows, Microsoft's market is growing at a solid 27% a year as well.

Please read this link and learn:

IDC reports impressive year-over-year growth for global PC shipments of 27.1% in the first quarter of 2010... netbooks are no longer driving the volume as much as in recent times.

From IDC's site: PCs include Desktop, Notebook, Ultra Portable, and Mini Notebook PC, and do not include handhelds.

It's not netbooks - which is where iPad is supposedly eating - that is driving the growth. It's desktops and laptops. It's not iPads and tablets, it's real computers - laptops and desktops. Devices where 95 out of 100 ship with Windows. And a SOLID 27% increase in market size. How that is "moving away from Microsoft's cash cow" is mystifying - there's ZERO basis for such a conclusion. None.

The ONLY trend here is Apple LOSING market share in the phone market. A proven trend, and one that all but Apple fanatics expect to continue and accelerate.

285 posted on 09/18/2010 2:07:35 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The ONLY trend here is Apple LOSING market share in the phone market. A proven trend, and one that all but Apple fanatics expect to continue and accelerate.

Apple remains the undisputed industry leader in the app software aftermarket, a market that you are obviously ignorant about. None of the other hardware vendors have a deep intrastructure for apps and content like Apple, although they will make some feeble attempt to imitate Apple.

My three-year old iPod touch can run circles around the latest crap-phones from Android and Blackberry, because Apple has the best app store, distributing the best apps.

For people want a mobile phone that is actually useful for something beside endless yakking, the iPhone remains the best choice.

286 posted on 09/18/2010 4:53:43 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

The growth is mostly portables, the first to be cannibalized. You Microsoft fanatics can’t see a world where Microsoft isn’t dominant.

Apple users know the iPhone can’t be dominant as one company vs. many large, heavily established players in the market.


288 posted on 09/19/2010 6:40:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; antiRepublicrat; RachelFaith; HAL9000; Star Traveler; stripes1776
Trend? WHAT trend? PC sales are STILL increasing at 27%+ per year. Since 90%+ of all PCs ship with Windows, Microsoft's market is growing at a solid 27% a year as well.

NOT TRUE!!!!!! In fact PC growth rate is projected to decline in the last half of 2010 and Intel is cutting back processor production.

I was wondering why you've been using the First quarter stats so much, instead of much more up-to-date figures. Now I know. You are Cherry Picking your data... AGAIN!

By selecting the first quarter 2010, you can exaggerate the growth because of the massive DROP in demand for PCs in the first Quarter 2009 which allows you to quote the ~24% and now IDC ~27% Increases in growth for PCs... Which, by the way, also incorporate Apple Mac growth percentages. However, there ARE more up-to-date statistics available on worldwide PC growth. The latest statistics are not quite as rosy as you want every one to believe. They're still not bad... But no where near the 27% you are crowing about (read lying) that you want us to believe!

Did you really think we don't check? From the ping list alert notice I just posted:

World wide PC shipment increased 19.2% Year-Over-Year according to a report from Gartner for the first half of 2010 — Apple's audited financial reports show that their Worldwide sales and shipments of Macs was up 35% Year-Over-Year for the same period, which are included in the overall Gartner figures.

Before you call me a liar, again, the various percentages come from Gartner for total Worldwide PCs, and from Apple's 10Q for the 3rd Quarter 2010, an authoritative, audited source.

And, of course, First Quarter 2010 sales information is absolutely meaningless to prove ANYTHING about what impact a device released in the SECOND Quarter of 2010 is having on the sales of net books or notebooks in any subsequent Quarter except to perhaps provide a baseline. Even then, I'd be looking at same quarter previous year for baseline data...

295 posted on 09/19/2010 9:58:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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