No, I tend to skip over most of it because it's handwaving and cheerleading (like that asymco report which has only itself as a reference and source - an unsupported report, as a result), and you buried it in the middle of a long paragraph after already calling it a strawman.
When can I expect your written abject apology for your calling me a "liar and a delusional liar" over claiming I never admitted this. I've told you I am not a liar. I told you I did. I also told you it was irrelevant. It is.
No, I said you're delusional over ignoring/denying this fact. I retract that. You're a liar claiming that I implied Apple had debt. So that label still sticks.
So, you're just a liar, not a delusional liar. My apologies for the delusional label.
You make assertions that are not true, such as "profit margins are very important in talking about the value of a company." Tell me: What is the profit margin of XOM? Is it larger or smaller than Apple's? Microsoft's? Google's? The corner drug store's? Why should it matter that much? It doesn't.
Profit share is what counts... giving away your product when no money sticks to your fingers is a BAD THING...
- Swordmaker
Someone who claims to have a minor in economics says that profit share and - implicitly - profit margin is important, it's a good thing. So why wouldn't profit margin be one of the measures of a company?
By the way, XOM's profit margin after taxes is 7.2% for their last fiscal year. So if it's so damn important, why are THEY the #1 Market Cap company in the world?
Because of the OTHER factors I've constantly mentioned! Like total revenue, total profits, market share. You conveniently ignore those, and thereby lie about my position ONCE AGAIN.
You've confirmed you love to twist my words and position and assign words to me I never said or implied. That makes you a liar. Provably so.
As I said, profit margin comparisons across industries and markets are irrelevant. I rest my case!
BS, and you know it. I've not made profit margin comparisons across industries, and here you are implying I did. LIAR!
Who in their right mind would consider Apple, Microsoft, and Google NOT in the same industry? They're ALL tech companies, part of the IT sector! Are you going to now reassign markets to those companies, too? You're lying again by trying to imply they are in different markets.
Yes, the title of liar fits you... Unless you'd like to apologize to me for this, and also refine/correct your statements here about profit margin's importance in market valuation (you try to say it has no impact, and earlier implied it has importance), and industry grouping of Google/Microsoft/Apple?
Words mean things and I am very precise in choosing the words I use.
Yes they do, and your precision means you are quite deliberate in your deception - a careful liar, we could say.
I do know what I am talking about, Puget.
Wait, do profit margins matter or not for valuation of a company?
If they do, then why would the LOWER PROFIT MARGIN of Apple give it a higher valuation than Microsoft or Google?
If they do not, then why do you keep TRUMPETING the margins and "high value" nature of Apple?
You're wanting it both ways, and that simply means you're either being deceptive or you do NOT know what you're talking about.
Your choice.
Now, about that apology?
Done. You're not delusional.
And I know better than to ever expect you to offer one back for your lies about me... A list added to right here.
The only liar here, is you. You've done it across markets and industries. Repeatedly.
Who in their right mind would consider Apple, Microsoft, and Google NOT in the same industry? They're ALL tech companies, part of the IT sector! Are you going to now reassign markets to those companies, too? You're lying again by trying to imply they are in different markets.
Only every expert economist and educated financial analyst in the world. You want to make technical definitions sloppy so you can make a point and win an argument with me. It just doesn't happen that way. Apple does have divisions that at first glance potentially or actually DO compete with both Microsoft and Google in some markets, but overall, it does not.
Because of the OTHER factors I've constantly mentioned! Like total revenue, total profits, market share. You conveniently ignore those, and thereby lie about my position ONCE AGAIN.
No, you've been repeatedly focusing on the profit margin. Challenging me, no baiting me, and, as you said ignoring my explanation of those very other factors that are far more important in valuing a company. . . So you can once again LIE about my position because, as you admitted, you SKIPPED OVER WHAT I WROTE. No, again, you are back-pedalling to try and make it seem you were right all along. You cheat. You are a sloppy debater, and an obvious liar. I am done with you. You are completely dishonest in everything you post.