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Jefferson vs Lincoln: America Must Choose
Tenth Amendment Center. ^ | 2010 | Josh Eboch

Posted on 03/10/2010 6:35:02 PM PST by Idabilly

Over the course of American history, there has been no greater conflict of visions than that between Thomas Jefferson’s voluntary republic, founded on the natural right of peaceful secession, and Abraham Lincoln’s permanent empire, founded on the violent denial of that same right.

That these two men somehow shared a common commitment to liberty is a lie so monstrous and so absurd that its pervasiveness in popular culture utterly defies logic.

After all, Jefferson stated unequivocally in the Declaration of Independence that, at any point, it may become necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them…

And, having done so, he said, it is the people’s right to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Contrast that clear articulation of natural law with Abraham Lincoln’s first inaugural address, where he flatly rejected the notion that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Instead, Lincoln claimed that, despite the clear wording of the Tenth Amendment, no State upon its own mere motion can lawfully get out of the Union; [and] resolves and ordinances [such as the Declaration of Independence] to that effect are legally void…

King George III agreed.

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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Which was precisely why Fort Sumter was attacked, am I right?

Well since the blood thirsty President didn't want to talk peace with the South Carolina Govt. the Feds were asked to leave. Of course, in response, the Goon re-inforced the garrison at Fort Sumter.

Read the Goons second inuagural speech, he admits it in that tome.

1,261 posted on 04/26/2010 10:37:16 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va; AlanD; Non-Sequitur
Under no circumstances shall a state or states be allowed to separate from the United States and form their own autonomous country.

No, I do not agree.

Do we have the ability to secede? Sure. Does it depend on the circumstances? By George it does.

Do I think the circumstances merited the South seceding upon Lincoln's election? No.

But frankly, after the attack on Fort Sumter, all bets were off.

1,262 posted on 04/26/2010 10:39:23 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: AlanD

Lincoln said: “ ... in saving the union, I have destroyed the Republic. Before me I have the Confederacy, which I loath. *But behind me I have the bankers, which I fear
And, What then will become of my tariff?” Abraham Lincoln to Virginia compromise delegation, March 1861.


1,263 posted on 05/20/2010 2:49:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mojitojoe

Would love to see a source of this quote. it doesn’t ring true.

Republicans/Whigs were always the party of the Northern Banks.


1,264 posted on 05/20/2010 2:57:53 PM PDT by AlanD
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