[EnderWiggins]

"Eggie, your analogy is not only false, your friend doesn't even KNOW that the person he talked to was at all knowledgeable about anything. He admitted he wasn't in the department in 1961, and I can tell you this, in the 1970's things WERE done differently in Hawaii. In 1961 Hawaii had been a state for what 3 years....? and you think that their processes would not have evolved over a period of a decade? Decade and a half(?), when this "person" gained his first hand information?"

I am struggling to understand your point here Danae. It seems to me you are arguing in my favor here. It is blindingly clear that there's nobody around today who was processing birth certificates in Hawaii in 1961... to include Janet Okubo. And it is butterdezillion, not me, who seems to be arguing that the process never changed over the last 50 years... my own position has always been that it most certainly has.

The guy was the best we could find, definitely closer both to the process and the time period than Ms. Okubo. If you don't think he's likely to have a better institutional memory than the Public Relations person, well that is more a reflection on your inexperience with bureaucracies than an argument in favor of butterdezillion's wild speculation.

Texas Buckeye has repeatedly made the point, and I have merely verified it, that butterdezillion can have no actual idea what the process was for processing Hawaiian BCs in 1961, and therefore her assertion that the numbering proves a forgery is well... goofy. You seem to admit that yourself in this post. So... what are we arguing about exactly?

"Because Okubo IS responsible for the information AND getting that information right, she has about a thousand percent more credibility than either you or your friend. She is HELD ACCOUNTABLE for what she says."

How droll... you guys have repeatedly insisted that Okubo is part of the conspiracy, that she has squirmeed and lied and done everything possible to keep the truth from you... and now suddenly you treat her as the paragon of accuracy and accountability?

Exactly how does that work in your world? I for one can make neither heads nor tales of the way you guys think.

[butterdezillion]

You apparently haven’t yet seen that the DOH office was closed on Feb 5th and your story has been proven as a lie.

You’re using it to gloat over your great find as opposed to my “wild speculation”. The audacity of the lies is absolutely astounding, but I’m glad you posted again so we couls all see how you Obots prance and parade even when you know you’re lying.

The emperor is naked, Ender. You are the emperor. Continue to prance; it will vindicate everything we’ve ever said about how the Obots will smile and parade their superior wisdom as they pollute the air with the filth of their lies.

What happened to you, here, will also happen to Obama and everyone who has covered for him. The truth will not stay hidden forever.

[Danae]

Back to the cave troll, I won’t engage you in further conversation regardless of what you post, I won’t even be reading it. You are a troll.

[BP2]

> I am struggling to understand your point here Danae.

That seems to be a common occurrence with you, Wiggy.

Here, have another sip.

It won't clear your thinking,
but it'll probably make you feel better.

[STARWISE]

The guy was the best we could find,

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Who's WE ?