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“I have pushed this in the face of the After-Birthers
at least 20 times in the last 24 hours, and there
is NO defense against it.”

Oh yes! It is he silver bullet that will end our evil existence. Run Non-Birthers! For your lives! They have us now! I’m melting......my world...my world...

There, Feel better? OK, try to grasp this.

1. No birther lawsuit has got far enough to require a defense.

2. If it did, I feel pretty sure the Defense counsel would simply get a certified copy of the COLB, submit it into evidence, and the judge would throw the Birther suit out.

parsy, who didn’t notice Obama in the courtroom while this was going on....

> 1. No birther lawsuit has got far enough to require a defense

Based upon ACTUALLY accepting Obama’s “birth certificate” in Court as a Legal “FACT” — as allowed by HRS 338-13(b) and 338.19 — BEFORE the Inauguration?

Based upon Legal Standing, Jurisdiction and Political Question AFTER the Inauguration?

I'm not following your logic here, Parsnip.
No worries though ... quo warranto will ease your pain.

> 2. If it did, I feel pretty sure the Defense counsel
> would simply get a certified copy of the COLB, submit it
> into evidence, and the judge would throw the Birther suit out.

My friend, the minute the actual COLB *is* submitted in Court — even IF by some miracle it matches the online version — it opens the door to requests for more prima facie. I know of about six more attorneys who are ready to pounce with new suits. They'll be making strong valid requests for Barry's citizenship in Indonesia, his immigration records, and his “father's” records as a British Subject ... all as the attorneys begin grappling over the “original intent” definition of “Natural Born Citizen.”

Parsley, trust me — your boy does NOT want to let the Eligibility attorneys get their foot in the door. Sadly for him, however, Obama cannot keep dodging it forever. Just like a Greek tragedy, the outcome is predetermined against the antagonist.

Even many of the punch-drinkers want the f*cker gone because he's an ineffective political leader and he's destroying their party.
They (especially the PUMAs) are our greatest ally.

What kind of fool would fight all these court cases on grounds of standing if just showing the darn birth certificate could finish the issue?

The same person who would retract military orders rather than just show the birth certificate and finish the issue.

This guy is willing to throw money, credibility, and military effectiveness overboard in order to prolong this thing. Why?

Some say because it makes his enemies look stupid. If that’s the reason then it is backfiring big-time. When fellow democrats say, “Obama is beginning to seem to not be credible to me” you know you’ve got a credibility problem - which is what BP2 keeps coming back to.

Now Obama may think it’s funny to poke fun at people who don’t appreciate liars playing games with the integrity of our whole legal system. He may think playing “chicken” with the Constitution is child’s play. Just like he thinks it’s fun to flip the bird at Palin and Hillary, and gets his thrills out of making fun of the Special Olympics. Big man, he is.

But his little pissy political games (and that’s the BEST construction that could be put on his refusal to show his documentation) are wearing VERY THIN on the public.

Either he’s a crook or a jerk, or - most probably - both. The American public sees. They are not amused.