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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: KenyanBCPunkster

I did understand that. I know what the web archive is. What I was saying is this. If you are the most powerful person in the world, it might not be too difficult to alter the records there and hacking wouldn’t necessarily be the only way to do it.


3,421 posted on 03/07/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: Natural Born 54
Thanks for posting the link. I missed that thread and it is interesting.

You are welcome. :-)

3,422 posted on 03/07/2010 11:27:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: flowergirl; All

Well, I guess I will answer this one last post before I banish myself from this particular thread. I have stop posting on this thread because I don’t want to risk my reputation as a great researcher by posting anymore about Bomford when I haven’t done tremendous amounts of research into Bomford. So I’m shutting up now about Bomford.

But I will answer this last question about Orly.

She’s been painted my the MSM as the leader of birthers when really she never has been even close to being the “leader”. Phil Berg has a much large following. And other Birther attorneys have much better attack plans than Orly could ever dream of. The MSM knows this and has known this for some time now. So what does the MSM do??? They paint the crazy Orly has our leader.

Orly and her husband Yosi or Yosef are profoundly wealthy. They own TONS TONS TONS or realestate and they have million or real dollars in the bank. Tangible money.

Orly Taitz refuses to pay for any research. Most anyone that has ever worked with Orly has never been paid on dollar for their work. As a matter of fact many of them HAVE PAID ORLY to be part of her “team”.

Not even the renowned Charles Edward Lincoln III could understand just what was wrong with Orly Taitz. And Charles Lincoln was in love with her. But not even love was strong enough to overpower his sense of something not adding up when it came to Orly Taitz and the way she operates.

Orly’s husband was in Kenya in 2009 but he wont discuss it and will not talk about it in Court. He also does a lot of business in China.

Orly’s refugee camp of ex clients, ex-staff, ex-attorneys, and ex-witnesses is growing by the week.

Nothing makes sense about her. Especially when she told me that she wanted me to lie in Court. I told her that he already had enough and that if we want more we must conduct research and investigation so why would we want to risk it all and tell lies in Court?

It’s possible that Orly Taitz works for some other team that does not share any common interests with Birthers. I just don’t have 100% proof and I don’t want to ruin my reputation as a good investigator by jumping out there and just saying that Orly Taitz works for Obama.

Respectfully,
Lucas Daniel Smith.

PS. Again I don’t know for sure 100% about the KenyaBCPunkster guy either. I just haven’t done enough research into Bomford that is needed to actually go up against the KenyaBCPunkster guy. So I toss the towel in. You win. At least for now.


3,423 posted on 03/07/2010 11:30:15 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: BP2

You need to get a copy of San Yat-Sen’s Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii. San Yat-Sen was really born in China, but received a Hawaiin “Birth” Certificate under the Section 338-17.8 loophole.

This is the same loophole that Barry used for his Kenyan birth certificate.


3,425 posted on 03/08/2010 12:30:51 AM PST by bigoil
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To: Jim Robinson

Check out post #43 of this thread.

Buckeye Texan pings all of the anti-birther trolls: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob;...

Meddlesome amateurs.


3,426 posted on 03/08/2010 12:40:37 AM PST by bigoil
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To: bigoil
You need to get a copy of San Yat-Sen’s Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii. San Yat-Sen was really born in China, but received a Hawaiin “Birth” Certificate under the Section 338-17.8 loophole.

This is the same loophole that Barry used for his Kenyan birth certificate.


That had to have been a pretty neat trick seeing as 338-17.8 didn't exist until 1982.

How exactly does one get a birth certificate in 1961 based on a law that wouldn't exist for another 21 years?


3,427 posted on 03/08/2010 12:42:12 AM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

Oh, and Sun Yat-Sen got what’s called a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.” Not a Certificate of Live Birth.


3,428 posted on 03/08/2010 12:46:08 AM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; bigoil
That had to have been a pretty neat trick seeing as 338-17.8 didn't exist until 1982.

How exactly does one get a birth certificate in 1961 based on a law that wouldn't exist for another 21 years?

The point he's making dingy is that San Yat-Sen’s received a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth stating he was born in Hawaii, which is not true as he was born in China. Maybe you should only stick with the Bomford caper. The statute that Obama highly likely acquired his Hawaii birth records became law in 1957, 4 year before Obama was born and NOT 21 years later. See C. 57 below:



3,429 posted on 03/08/2010 1:54:16 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: machogirl

The bottom line is that the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the certificate number is given by the state registrar on the “Date filed”. This means that the Factcheck COLB could not have been “filed” 3 days before the Nordyke BC’s and still receive a later number than the Nordykes’ certificates.

IOW, we know that Factcheck is a forgery not only because Obama’s BC was amended and that isn’t noted on the COLB as required by law, but also because the certificate number and filing dates are an impossible combination.

So this is two different ways, now, that the DOH’s answers to official requests have pointed out information that shows Factcheck to be a forgery.


3,430 posted on 03/08/2010 5:42:45 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
A third issue is the use of the classification AFRICAN,
It was not used in 1961 on birth records.
3,431 posted on 03/08/2010 5:53:11 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Natural Born 54
Now why don’t you do something good with your talents?

He is. He's deceiving you into thinking that down deep inside he's really a good person -- and you're falling for it ---- again --- and again.

3,432 posted on 03/08/2010 6:05:09 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Man50D

When was the last time citizens convened a grand jury?


3,433 posted on 03/08/2010 6:17:22 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
When was the last time citizens convened a grand jury?

You can find that information at the following website: americangrandjury.org
3,434 posted on 03/08/2010 6:21:47 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Man50D
When was the last time citizens convened a grand jury?

You constantly make the most trollish remarks.

3,435 posted on 03/08/2010 6:22:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Seizethecarp
We do not have provenance of any of these images or the identity and political affiliation of the creators of the images.

YEP -- but we do have provenance of one thing and that is that Obama's father was not an American citizen and therefore he is not a natural born citizen.

3,436 posted on 03/08/2010 6:25:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: bigoil
Here's a link

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii

3,437 posted on 03/08/2010 6:32:54 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: DJ MacWoW

It wasn’t a remark, it was a question. Now go away and stop bothering me unless you have something constructive to add to the discussion.


3,438 posted on 03/08/2010 6:37:23 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Man50D

Kinda seems like a nut-job site.


3,439 posted on 03/08/2010 6:40:16 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Now go away and stop bothering me unless you have something constructive to add to the discussion.

Not happening. You're posts have raised red flags on this thread before.

3,440 posted on 03/08/2010 6:45:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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