Posted on 06/25/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow
Good-bye.
A few months ago, I posted some information on bank financial strength. The post was a complex table and it took me sometime to make the post. Not long after, I forget but perhaps 10 or 20 minutes, the post disappeared. Figuring I made a mistake, I posted it again. This time I was pretty sure I posted it correctly. It disappeared within a few minutes. To verify that this was what was happening, I posted a third time. It again disappeared immediately.
I never received any feedback from FreeRepublic on this matter.
It annoyed me, but since I have always trusted FR, and since I have so far as I know maintained a sterling reputation here as a well behaved citizen for the eight or ten years I've been here, I shook my head in confusion and forgot that incident.
Just tonight I posted a more controversial post involving 9/11. It disappeared within minutes (after I had verified that the post succeeded).
Again, no notice public or private, before or after the fact. Just poof.
Good-bye.
I will cancel future monthly FR donations and leave. I cannot support a political discussion and news site which makes seriously intended posts by long standing contributors of good standing just disappear without notice, public or private, before or after.
The SanityIsland.us site, with some Daily Dose images, will remain around likely for one year, then go away without further notice. I may be reached via email at pj@usa.net (yes, I have excellent spam filters.)
Sites have a right to do as they please, but also a responsibility to stand up for the actions they take, at least involving participants acting in good faith. FR apparently is failing to honor this responsibility.
I would ask that in the future removals of posts made in good faith by members in good standing at least be recognized in private messages to the poster after the fact, stating the approximate cause for removal. Even a 'boilerplate' explanation would be better than nothing.
I wish this fine community and the good people here well. This nation is in dire need of honest reporting and discussion.
Really? Wow...........:o)
I tend to agree it would be nice to advise the poster when/if his/her thread is pulled, at least a long-time FReeper. On the other hand I can see how that could be readily abused and begin to consume a lot of the mods’ time if some sporting DU’s decided to come in and continuously put up offensive threads. Perhaps mod discretion could be used to notice known posters.
SOB, it didn’t work.
Don't go, Pythonic Cow.
That's an interesting bankrate table, and I've bookmarked it for further study.
But the name invoked in the preface to the table as its source (Lew Rockwell) is a no-no as I recall.
Whatever you do Janet, don't laser off your FR tatoo.
Is Nick Griffin your MEP?
I guess I am a 'Doubting Thomas' of sorts. I would rather examine what people have to say (along with their motives for saying it) than subscribe to a knee-jerk reaction to them or their beliefs.
"Troofer" and similar labels are intended to deride, but do not describe the logic behind the derision. I am immediately likely to want to look harder at the evidence when such labels are used. As a result of such labelling and the knee-jerk reactions many have, details which might otherwise come to light may be be buried or overlooked.
Whether someone is accused of a crime or not (easy way for deflection from either side, the criminal investigators or the individual making allegations), their observations may be valid and those should be examined.
How is this any different than ignoring the 'John Does', alleged warnings to ATF personnel, additional devices alleged to be found in the Murragh Building, and explosives analyses done of the Oklahoma City bombing?
Something, some event so important should be scrutinized from every angle, and only then can the truth of what happened come out.
Surely motivation for establishing policy or law on the basis of 'conventional wisdom' evaluations should be examined also.
I find it interesting that people denied any evil could come out of a government staffed with the same people (for the most part) who had been in those same positions while Clinton was in office. I find it even more incredible that there are those who might immediately and without examining all aspects of the investigation(s) summarily deny any wrongdoing based merely on the political affiliation of the person who is in the top job, even though 8 years of 'bushhate' should have demonstrated that there were those in our government and elsewhere wou would consider a few casualties or some 'collateral damage' a small price to pay for moving their agenda forward.
Keep in mind the Patriot Act provisions which can now be applied against all those 'Jesus-loving, bitter, gun clinging, Constitution reading, right-winged radical domestic terrorist types' were passed on Bush's watch, over the objections of Conservatives who saw the potential for abuse if some one in office decided to do so, and foresaw the possibility of Hillary or worse wielding these same tools against patriotic Americans.
We are adults here, and should be able to discuss evidence on its merits or lack thereof, without the knee-jerk reaction to ideas we might find unpleasant to consider.
I for one, have noticed that the Global Socialist agenda has yet to be substantially slowed, that no matter which party is in power, the foundations are constantly being laid and/or built upon for a global socialist order. It has been thus since my youth.
For me, the lack of border enforcement, even after 9/11 was the 'dog that didn't bark'.
Our borders should have been secured, illegals removed, and done pronto. To spend treasure and lives and material trying to ensure our 'national security' elsewhere while leaving the Southern Border a wide open walk-through still makes no sense.
If there are other allegations and evidence of omission, collusion, or foreknowledge of these events, let's find them and let the chips fall where they may.
"The Constitution may not be much, but it's better than what we have now."
or
It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton
I mean, I'm only class of 2004 but I still like reading from folks who've been here longer than me.
Full Disclosure: would I get in trouble for asking him to privately FReepmail me the link, just so I can find out what the hubbub was *about* ...???
Cheers!
Full Disclosure: Fortran beast. I don't get all these new-fangled languages ;-)
Cheers!
If you're going be an atheist on FR, do it respectfully, or else join the throng at Darwin Central.
Cheers!
But methinks you are confusing complicity with opportunism.
Remember, the left's big push in the wake of 9-11 was :
a) DON'T target Muslims, we are all multicultural
b) We really NEED a UNIONIZED govt. dept for airport security.
I think they are only conveniently seizing on the security apparatus set up by Bush, to aggrandize their own nascent police state powers.
Cheers!
The guy is basing a lot on what appears to be rumor and speculation: if he bothered to document and/or substantiate a lot of his stuff (like the Customs Dept. evidence including heat-sensitive cassettes in a tape), and then bothered to figure out the location of the safe in relation to the fires, the thermal conductivity and heat capacity characteristics of the safe, etc. rather than saying "It looks funny -- must Be A CONSPIRACY!", he'd have more credibility.
Another example would be this quote:
"We are asked to believe that all four of the “indestructible” black boxes of the two jets that struck the twin towers were never found because they were completely vaporized, yet I have footage of the rubber wheels of the landing gear nearly undamaged, as well as the seats, parts of the fuselage and a jet turbine that were absolutely not vaporized. This being said, I do find it rather odd that such objects could have survived fairly intact the type of destruction that turned most of the Twin Towers into thin dust."
Ever hear of "scattering of debris"? The entire towers were not engulfed in flame. And "turned into dust" is not the same thing as "vaporized" -- he is conflating two different things and relying on the association between the two vaguely "bad, nasty destructive" terms to convey the notion of a sinister conspiracy, when it is really just his own confusion being shown. And why doesn't he check with Boeing about the parts which comprise a turbine, to see if the surviving piece in the article is a well-known subassembly?
Finally, I tend to have a personal rule not to trust people whose publicity shots look so d*mned supercilious:
See also Jeff Goldblum:
FR has gone down hill over the past year or so. It seems to have attracted a group of lower intellect and hyper emotional type poster. These people also tend to be quite paranoid.
Good post. Nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth.
Take a few weeks off - think it over - then come back...
Aw, c’mon. Stick around. It’s just a message board - an important message board, but still just a message board.
Relax. :)
I agree.
The author is a moron.
Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
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45 posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:41:31 PM by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
You can't keep a good man/man/woman down.
After all you will only punish yourself by withdrawing from all the wisdom, truth, up to the minute happenings and the reasons why, ... that occurs daily here on Free Republic.
Actually you would be behaving like a liberal Democrat. Verboten!!!
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