Posted on 03/03/2008 10:37:49 AM PST by Rebeleye
Are you kidding me? The states willfully joined the Confederacy knowing the conditions involved; and most if not all of them already allowed slavery, anyway.
” less able to accept, understand or respond to logic” not true... people in general have never been as well educated or tolerant. However, opinions about the way people think and their values, particularly about how they view ancestors, are not logic. The intolerant today are those trying to suppress values and opinions they disagree with including Mr. Pitts.
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BTTT!
“It is worth mentioning that Robert E. Lee was morally opposed to slavery”
This is, for the most part, a myth propogated by southern historians after the war. His family owned slaves and, while he opposed secession prior to the war, he wasn’t speaking out in opposition to slavery.
From the perspective of the South. From the perspective of the North, it was about keeping the Union intact. Slavery was more an issue of economics for the South, and a moral issue for some in the North.
But obviously not moral enough to keep from abrogating his oath as an officer and to the Constitution.
The man took up arms against his country. That is textbook treason.
Plus he was a lousy field general. He refused to fight the kind of war that won like his counterparts Grant and Sherman did. He was stuck in the last century.
Some people have too much time on their hands, writing irrelevant, unimportant, politically correct garbage like this.
Is it really that slow of a news day?
Code for right to own slaves.
It’s an internet rule, the first invocation of Nazis in any debate is an automatic loss.
Slavery is evil. No one is even trying to debate that, (ok, no one sane). The Confederate flag isn’t about slavery. It’s about regionalism, and heritage, that’s not bad. To someone in the south, the Confederate flag represents where they are from, it represents self reliance, and a distinct southern sensiblity.
Leonard, it’s time to move on. No one alive in America was a slave. Not everything is about racism. A noose is not just a symbol of race motivated lynchings. Lynchings happened to more than just blacks.
If a southerner wants to remember the good parts of the past, southern determination... let them. If they advocate slavery, then you have a complaint. By the way Leonard, it’s the Black community that now pushes segregation. How is it that if the Black community wants it, it’s ok? But if Whites wanted it, it’s bad? Leonard, you may have recto-crainial inversion.
Technically, it's not treason if you're exercising an implied right under the Constitution, since the oath is to that very document, not to "the country" or to "the government".
Of course, secession also turns out to be a bad idea, unless you've made sure you're ready to win a war against an aggressive imperial federal government.
I think that we can agree that Slavery was a smaller issue at the time of the founding of the country, but by the 1840’s it was inextricably bound up with so many issues that it’s hard to see how it could have been dealt with by the political system as it then stood.
Say what you will,,The Founding Fathers would have fought on the side of the South,,And probably would have carried a Battle Flag.
Fly it proud..And stand up for the Constitution.
Really? So, if somebody supports State's rights today, do you think that means they want to reinstitute slavery?
LOL. Really, these discussions are always educational, but it always amazes me how people can say with a straight face that the war had nothing to do with slavery. Yes, I concede most of their allegations ... e.g. that many northerners were racists and pro-slavery, that most southern soldiers were fighting in defense of their homeland, etc. etc. ... but to deny that protecting slavery was the primary impetus to secession is simply moronic.
Ask him if he owns a Che shirt
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