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Thompson Played Grant _ No Hero in South
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/13/7 | Jim Davenport

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:06:08 PM PST by SmithL

Charleston, S.C. (AP) -- Fred Thompson has gotten a lot of mileage out of his movie and TV fame as he runs for the Republican presidential nomination. And on Tuesday, speaking at The Citadel military college, he made sure to mention one of his recent roles: president of the United States, in the movie "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee."

But that wasn't all good for someone campaigning in the South.

"Some people say I've got a little making up to do," he said. "The last role I played when I was in the movies — I played Ulysses S. Grant." That's the Northern Civil War general who went on to become president. But it could have been worse.

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To: Red Badger
Dude, it's a joke.
141 posted on 11/13/2007 8:58:20 PM PST by curiosity
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To: puroresu
I think he was just having a little fun by noting that he played Grant. No one seriously thinks that would, or should, hurt him in the South.

Some here obviously hope that it *does* hurt Thompson in the South. How lame is that?

142 posted on 11/13/2007 9:11:49 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Charles Martel

I can’t imagine it would hurt him here......he is quite popular down here.

and acting out Grant doesn’t matter much down here.....most Southerners under 40 don’t pay much attention to any history


143 posted on 11/13/2007 9:26:54 PM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: SmithL

What a bunch of bunk. It was an acting job. Only a total idiot would believe Fred Thompson is the person he played, no matter what part it was, in any film or TV shows.


144 posted on 11/13/2007 9:53:03 PM PST by Brandie (Duncan Hunter in 08' Islam is a Death Cult, is that simple enough to understand!)
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To: puroresu
I think he was just having a little fun by noting that he played Grant.

Duh. It amazes me how it's lost on so many Freepers that it was just a joke.

145 posted on 11/13/2007 11:49:24 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Brandie
What a bunch of bunk. It was an acting job.

Dude, it's a joke.

146 posted on 11/13/2007 11:50:08 PM PST by curiosity
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To: SmithL

Must be a slow news day.


147 posted on 11/14/2007 3:40:17 AM PST by catfish1957 (In honor of my 5 Confederate ancestors whodefended their homeland during the War of Northn Agression)
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To: wardaddy
course since their families probably owned slaves they had it coming /s

No, it was the fact that Pemberton chose to hole his army up in a city with a civilian population that caused it. Had Pemberton not done that there would have been no seige.

148 posted on 11/14/2007 3:47:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: SmithL; AuntB
Also FWIW, I knew him to be a senator before I knew him to be an actor.

I have a much higher opinion of Duncan Hunter when I ignore his supporters! lol

149 posted on 11/14/2007 6:01:40 AM PST by sweet_diane (Adoption, the beautiful alternative.)
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To: Spktyr

Wiki said that Groucho would accept the answer of six. It also said he would accept the answer of “Grant” for the other question because they were actually consolation questions to make sure that the guest got to go home with something.

When I think of Groucho, I think of Mark Levin for some reason. Not sure why.


150 posted on 11/14/2007 6:50:59 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: JamesP81

And the Brits conducted the so-called carpet bombing because, contrary to popular legend, the Norton Bombsight couldn’t put a bomb in a pickle barrel at 20,000 feet. At least it couldn’t at night, and they conducted their raids at night to protect the crews.

I get sick and tired of people attacking the allies tactics at this late date when we didn’t ask for that damn war, we didn’t start it, we just finished it.

Take the atomic bombings. Those bombs saved four million Japanese lives. People always point to the million of ours it saved from being lost in an invasion. I would submit we would have had to kill 4X the number of japs to get the job done so it was for their benefit too.

War is like in infected tooth. There’s no easier softer way, you just have to get in there and yank it.


151 posted on 11/14/2007 6:55:33 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1
I would submit we would have had to kill 4X the number of japs to get the job done so it was for their benefit too.

At a minimum, 4X the number. And that was if everything went perfectly. I think the more likely numbers were somewhere in the range 2 million allied casualties and tens of millions of japanese casualties. Given that they were intending to fight to the last man, woman, and child it's not inconceivable to think that an invasion of Japan could've ended their civilization.
152 posted on 11/14/2007 7:08:10 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: ichabod1; All
in other words, you really think that MORAL/DECENT/LAWFUL behavior is only consistent with winning????

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153 posted on 11/14/2007 7:49:27 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Kozak; All
nope it was NOT "indiscriminate".

what sherman ordered was a WAR CRIME, a CRIME AGAINST PEACE & a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

" sherman the destroyer" should have been hanged.

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154 posted on 11/14/2007 7:53:14 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: rhinohunter
CHUCKLE!!!

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155 posted on 11/14/2007 7:54:48 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: BnBlFlag
and they did NOT do as they were "told". (Texans are NOT known for "following orders". it's part of our rebellious heritage.)

when the band arrived in DC,they were waving the flags. they were ordered NOT to march with the CSA flags, however.

free dixie,sw

156 posted on 11/14/2007 8:00:51 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: El Gato
CONGRADS, gramps!!!!

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157 posted on 11/14/2007 8:02:01 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur

damn NS.....Grant had no free will eh?

Pemberton (Yankee) made him bomb civilians....I get it.

Pemberton sucked though....you’re right about that.....but to be fair, it was reasonable to assume that he (Pemberton) could deal with gunboat traffic, defend to the east and not have to worry about the South and North land approaches which are horrible...impossible to the north.. to march an army through. He underestimated Grant’s ability to march down the Louisiana side and then cross over and take Jackson and Champion’s Hill etc thus making any hook up with Johnston impractical.

Which means it was Johnston’s fault as much since he did not make the effort necessary to match Grant and WT.

And yes...Grant did allow civilians to leave......those that wanted to but the ones who stayed were naive enough to think he would only target CSA encampments on the perimeter.


158 posted on 11/14/2007 8:03:07 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
"sherman, the destroyer" probably killed nobody, personally.

what he SHOULD have been hanged for was "suffered troops under his command" to commit mass rapes, tortures, assaults, robberies, arson & MURDERS of countless civilians. in other words, sherman failed to END the commission of WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, while the commanding general of those troops.

fwiw, that's what "general yamashita" was hanged for. sherman deserved a short rope & a long fall, TOO.

free dixie,sw

159 posted on 11/14/2007 8:08:08 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Oh go away. Nobody is interested in the crap you post since none of it has any basis in fact anyway.


160 posted on 11/14/2007 8:09:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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