Rudy and the Republican Nomination

http://www.joinrudy2008.com/News/DocumentPrint.aspx?DocumentID=19580 ^ | 2 Feb 2007 | Brent Seaborn, Strategy Director

[WalterSkinner]

How many times can these folks post the same thing over and over again? They're shooting themselves in the foot

..each camp has their mantras--everyone is just passionate for their guy...

[bamabaseballmom]

Unless it's the Freeper poll with Hunter in the lead - then it's gospel!

[Stultis]

I'm in with Rudy if, and only if, the base can extract a FIRM PROMISE from him to appoint ONLY real, originalist, judicial conservatives to the Supreme Court, and to all other federal courts so long as such qualified candidates are available. Otherwise I gotta look elsewhere.

I use the first person somewhat figuratively. I'm not a mover in the party, and the nominee will probably be all but decided by the time my state holds the presidential primary. But I think "taking the pledge" on judicial nominees would earn Giuliani significant creds with the base.

[My GOP]

See Post 50 and 113.

[JimFreedom]

I didn't say any of those things, I believe he was invited to give a speech at the 2002 commencement. If the military thought you were a jerk you wouldn't be invited I am sure.

[HitmanLV]

Sounds about right. :-)

[DocH]

Rudy may not be a military man but he is a man's man and a hero.

Oh, COME ON NOW. That's utterly ridiculous.

[dirtboy]

Well, the post is factual. Rudy DID do that stuff. As opposed to saying Duncan Hunter is on the same page with Hagel, which we know is nonsense.

The real question is, to what extent does FR dwell on the various factual negatives of the candidates?

I have no problem with posts about Hunter's involvement in the House bank scandal - he was in deep.

And he did vote for certain GOP initiatives that I disagreed with. I might debate the rationale for the votes, but I cannot dispute that they cast doubt on Hunter's bona fide conservative credentials.

I only ask that the debates be based on fact and not nonsense.

[Stultis]

wow, they are going to come after you now for starting a favorable Rudy thread - like those scenes in Dracula where the townsfolk all head up to the castle with torches.

I dunno. Will the "true" conservatives leave their "compounds" that long?

[My GOP]

I didn't say being a great speaker is the criteria for running for President or for being the nominee. I was responding to Doc who said that Rudy has a speech impediment. Its like you Rudy people to read into things that aren't there and take things out of context and put it into a context that serves your purposes.

[Blackirish]

It may be tweaked a little or something but its always pro-life, pro-family values, and pro-gun. That isn't going to change

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Too bad the current crew sacrificed fiscal discipline...they can't even give a speech on personal responsibility...the benefits of a smaller less intrusive government without eye-rolling and moans. We used to be able to mock the dims about calling the constitution a "living breathing document"....now you have the far right rewriting the constitution over queers and flag burning.

No wonder their stock has collapsed and it's Rudy's to lose.

[dirtboy]

Will the "true" conservatives leave their "compounds" that long?

Ah, so now you are comparing your opponents to Branch Davidians?

[areafiftyone]

All we want is for people to listen to Rudy when he campaigns first before making any decisions.

[dirtboy]

All we want is for people to listen to Rudy when he campaigns first before making any decisions.

Even though a large number of his past positions are quite offensive to a lot of conservatives? Speaking style has no meaning when it is based on a platform that has no meaning to certain audiences.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I am absolutely amazed at the number of Rudy/Mitt bashers telling other posters - even poster who have been here a good bit of time -- that they don't belong on FR because of something they post.

Yeah, and the primaries are not even close for this level of vitriol. I read the Hunter threads when I see them, because I'm not familiar with him or his views. I have not even begun to make a final decision on voting in the primaries. I will vote R in the general election. No more third party disasters for me!

[My GOP]

Areafiftyone didn't say anything about Rudy's speaking style. There you go again.

[areafiftyone]

That's because you are closedminded.

[onyx]

Calling him a cross dresser is factual? Come on, you know better than that.

[DocH]

Liberal police chiefs invite liberal "VIP's" to official functions, and the street cops HATE having to feign respect and admiration for these scumbag bureaucrats.

The same goes with the military.

I used to have a battalion CO from NJ. Anytime I spoke with him, he blathered on about how great Bill Bradley was and what a great president he would make. I was a captive audience who couldn't stand hearing about how great my CO thought this liberal scumbag was.

Those poor guys at West Point in the photo are either liberal new yorkers themselves, or they felt compelled to at least feign respect and admiration for liberal RINO, RINO-rudy.

Sometimes, especially in the military, you've got to do what your superiors want you to do, no matter how disgusting and/or painful.

[Ciexyz]

Listening to the candidates is step one in making an informed final decision we can live with.