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WOW! ISN'T THIS DRUG WAR GREAT!
Boortz.com ^ | 11-22-2006 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/22/2006 7:35:17 AM PST by Dick Bachert

Atlanta police went to a home on Neal Street in Atlanta last evening to execute a search warrant. When they kicked the door in the only occupant of the home, a 92-year-old woman, started shooting. She hit all three police officers. One in the thigh, one in the arm and another in the shoulder. All police officers will be OK. The woman will not. She was shot and killed by the police.

I'm not blaming the cops here. Not at all. They had a valid search warrant, and they say they were at the right address. Shots were fired, three cops hit, and they returned fire. A 92-year-old woman who was so afraid of crime in her neighborhood that she had burglar bars on every door and window, is now dead.

The blame lies on this idiotic drug war we're waging. We have all the studies we need, all of the comprehensive data is in. We can do a much more effective job of reducing drug use in this country if we'll just take a portion of this money we spend for law enforcement and spend it on treatment programs. A Rand study showed that we can reduce illicit drug usage in this country a specified amount through treatment programs at about 10% of the cost of reducing drug usage by that same amount through criminalization and law enforcement.

There's just something in the American psyche that demands that drug users be punished instead of treated and rehabilitated. We think they're stupid and ignorant for getting mixed up with those drugs in the first place. And you know what? We're right? But look at the messages we send to our children every single day with cigarettes, alcohol, and an endless stream of drug ads on television and in magazines. Drug culture? You bet we have.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; donutwatch; druggy; drugwar; hempatarian; leo; stoner; wod; wodlist
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To: Phantom Patriot

If you are a cop. Then you know the post is true. The blue crowd always defends itself.<<<<<<<<<<<

More like the "blue crowd" may have a better idea what really goes on and is not deluded into thinking the problems surrounding the WOD can be easily solved by legalization.


121 posted on 11/22/2006 9:38:14 AM PST by Mjaye
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To: JamesP81
You missed the part in the amendment about unreasonable searches and seizures. Just because they had a warrant doesn't make it reasonable automatically.

But they are the ones who judge if it's reasonable. A no win situation. Of course they will articulate it in a way that justifies the outcome.
122 posted on 11/22/2006 9:40:07 AM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Gideon Reader

It's not BS and I know it's true.

No knocks are supposedly for the prevention of destruction of evidence, but what's the primery type of enforcement that used no knock? Drug busts. What was the test case that got no knocks approved by the courts? A drug bust. The war on drugs has been used to hack the Bill of Rights to pieces, and attempts to deny it are attempts to deny basic reality

And I notice how you carefully ignored the problem that right now owning too much Sudafed makes someone a drug offender.


123 posted on 11/22/2006 9:40:15 AM PST by discostu (we're two of a kind, silence and I)
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To: Unknown Pundit
If there was no WOD, there would be no need for a search warrant in the first place. That's the connection.

Then why stop with the WOD. Your logic indicates that all crime should be legalized in order to prevent such incidents.

The case for legalizing all drug use or particular drug use and cases like this are apples and oranges.

124 posted on 11/22/2006 9:41:29 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: lafroste
If drugs are legalized, doesn't that mean that they will be branded, marketed and sold? Will Merck come out with MadDash brand cocaine? Starball Express methamphetimine? How would the (now legal) user get his stash? If consumption were legal but distribution were illegal, you'd have essentially the situation we have now. If manufacture and distribution were legal too, then capitalist forces would end up promoting drug use. How do you resolve that one?

One word - alcohol. We already have a model that works pretty well for the legal drug alcohol. We use that same model for these other substances. Most folks who use these things now aren't addicts, just like most drinkers aren't alcoholics. There's no reason to believe it can't work.

Prohibition demands perfection in human beings. To my knowledge, no one is perfect, so prohibitions are doomed to fail from the start. It's best to leave people to their own devices, knowing that some will stumble and fall, just like some do with alcohol. But most won't.

125 posted on 11/22/2006 9:44:14 AM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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To: Mjaye

More like the "blue crowd" may have a better idea what really goes on and is not deluded into thinking the problems surrounding the WOD can be easily solved by legalization.


Surrogates for bad politicians. Self Serving. I kinda doubt it. Cops have an in born need to abuse others. They fulfill that need by acting as surrogates for their masters. Who is going to complain if they abuse a druggie?


126 posted on 11/22/2006 9:44:14 AM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Sam Hill

"That's an impressive list.

Soros' people do good work.

(Are the benefits good?)"

I must say I'm surprised that you aren't posting in ALL-CAPS!!!

It would certainly match your rhetorical style.

I gather from the general drift of your posts that you may have OD'd on gubmint Koolaid. Chugalugging that poison is bad for the soul.


127 posted on 11/22/2006 9:46:00 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: discostu

Well we've got to do something about runny noses dammit. I find it funny that if we talk 2nd amendment then it's "if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns." But when you talk WOD then where's the same reasoning to putting Sudafed behind the counter?? If you outlaw Sudafed, only outlaws will have Sudafed. And as everyone knows, the supply of meth has not dropped one iota since all of these stupid laws have hit the books, it's just made it a pain in the ass for me and everyone else to go get cold medicine. But don't the politicians look good doing "something"???


128 posted on 11/22/2006 9:47:42 AM PST by rednesss
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To: DesScorp

And how long have you been with the local narcotics unit?


129 posted on 11/22/2006 9:48:23 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: patton
Odd that the amount is omitted.

But it was specified ;-)

130 posted on 11/22/2006 9:48:24 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah, the wording was wierd.


131 posted on 11/22/2006 9:51:36 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: rednesss

But don't the politicians look good doing "something"???


There is the problem. Outlaw politicians.


132 posted on 11/22/2006 9:52:05 AM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot
"And I suppose you are one of those good little angels and have never broken any law. EVER!"

I'm one of those good little angels that recognizes that all societies need order of some type, and those that don't have a moral foundation to that order collapse.

Now put down your bong and read DeTocqueville's Democracy in America
133 posted on 11/22/2006 9:53:00 AM PST by DesScorp (.)
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To: Phantom Patriot

They fulfill that need by acting as surrogates for their masters. Who is going to complain if they abuse a druggie?<<<<<<<

You're kidding, right? Got a little problem with authority? And having said that, let me add that anyone who actually abuses anyone else under the color of authority should lose their job and be prosecuted.

Do yourself a favor, do a ridealong in South Central and tell me about all the abuse you witness. Talk to the residents who pray for a black and white to come by and roust the thugs who terrorize the neighborhood and make it impossible for kids to play outside. It's all the fault of the cops, they're the problem.


134 posted on 11/22/2006 9:54:21 AM PST by Mjaye
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To: Phantom Patriot

Amen. I think Shakespeare was onto something. Most politicians are lawyers first.


135 posted on 11/22/2006 9:54:53 AM PST by rednesss
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To: CATravelAgent
So, it'd be under the purview of ATF? (Unless the magical 'tarians manage to eliminate that agency, first.) Grown where, under what supervision? Who will be made responsible for addicts and the costs they impose on society? (Of course, we hope the wizards of 'tarianism will have made every individual responsible for his own behavior. We know how hard they work, just so tireless in their whining!) And when the inevitable lawsuits arise from not making pot safe enough, who pays for all the courtroom time? (Boortz is a &^% lawyer, you know.) Will people be allowed to "grow their own?" (Of course! Just like I'm able to build a legal moonshine still. That's the way the 'tarians would want it to be, when they're not stoned.)
136 posted on 11/22/2006 9:55:19 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: All

History might not repeat itself, but stupidity sure does:

Opium Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars


137 posted on 11/22/2006 9:56:02 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Mamzelle

Think of the progeny of these folks who have been legally supplied (by the government probably) with various combinations of drugs.

It's funny how we never hear about "crack babies" now that George Soros owns the Democrat party and their mainstream media.

**Generations* of people will have to be taken care of by the government.

And this is what the Libertarians see as a solution. Just like "open borders" they think they can just wave a magic bong and there will be sunshine and daffodils.

They want to get stoned. --And to hell with the rest of us.


138 posted on 11/22/2006 9:59:57 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: DesScorp
I'm one of those good little angels that recognizes that all societies need order of some type, and those that don't have a moral foundation to that order collapse

We have no social foundation. That is a sham. The country is too watered down to have a social foundation. When laws are applied and enforced selectively that is unjust. What will it be next? I hope it's something you enjoy. Then you too will join the ranks of criminals. Let me see, if I remember correctly in recent history some books were outlawed and burned. If government continues they will get around to something you feel strongly about. I hope your not obese. They may send a storm trooper to monitor what you eat. Oh yeah let me take another hit of my high grade MEXICAN weed.
139 posted on 11/22/2006 10:02:03 AM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Dick Bachert
When you break into someones house,expect to be shot at. That piece of paper called a "search warrant" does not make one bullet proof.
140 posted on 11/22/2006 10:02:23 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I'm surrounded by Union Dems in the 12th district! Alone in the wilderness.)
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