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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN | 10-19-06 | no dems

Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems

Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Ex-border agents sentenced for shooting smuggler
AP

EL PASO, Texas -- Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents were each sentenced Thursday to more than a decade in federal prison for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler and then trying to cover it up.

Ignacio Ramos was sentenced to 11 years and one day, and Jose Alonso Compean was sentenced to 12 years. Both were fired after their convictions on several charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstruction of justice, and a civil rights violation.

The men, neither of whom spoke in court, will be allowed to turn themselves in Jan. 17.

The agents have proclaimed their innocence in the Feb. 17, 2005, shooting of admitted drug smuggler Osvlado Aldrete Davila.

Aldrete was shot in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande into Mexico after a confrontation with Ramos and Compean. The agents said they shot in self defense, but prosecutors charged that they had no reason to shoot at the fleeing man, who later claimed he was unarmed.

Since their convictions, support for the agents has swelled. Several prominent law makers, including U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, the Wisconsin Republican who chairs the House judiciary committee, have even called for a Congressional investigation into the agents' prosecutions.

The union representing most rank and file Border Patrol agents established a legal defense fund. And civilian border watch groups have asked the U.S. Attorney General's office to review the case and throw out the jury's guilty verdicts.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; bds; border; borderagents; bordersecurity; davila; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico
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To: Borax Queen

It would be interesting to find out why Johnny Sutton turned all the policies of the border patrol upside down and gave imunity to a CRIMINAL just to prosecute and jail two public servants, one who had been nominated as border patrolman of the year.


641 posted on 10/20/2006 10:21:43 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

The wrong people were sentenced - it should have been more than a few politicians going to prison for not upholding their oath of office.


642 posted on 10/20/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: WatchingInAmazement

these agents deserved anything more than disiplinary action as provided by border patrol guidlines.



Are you saying that guidelines provide for DA when agents shoot and do not report?

Clarify please.

As for the sentencing guidelines - bizarre? Absolutely!!! Change them then.


643 posted on 10/20/2006 10:38:30 AM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Next time you need help, may I suggest you get it from a drug smuggler?


644 posted on 10/20/2006 10:42:31 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Ajnin
Neither is defending a drug smuggler.

Nice tactics, Mr. BP Agent.
Why are you no longer floating the story that the drug smuggler shot himself?

You and your Union are disgusting.

645 posted on 10/20/2006 10:43:22 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: no dems

This is a shame. Nothing will be done though.


646 posted on 10/20/2006 10:58:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: texastoo
Next time you need help, may I suggest you get it from a drug smuggler?

You're free to make any suggestion you wish, no matter how foolish it may be.

The problem wasn't the shooting. It was the cover-up.

647 posted on 10/20/2006 11:07:52 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The problem wasn't the shooting. It was the cover-up.

So if it is proven that D. Hassert knew about Mark Foley and underaged boys, do you think he will get 10 years in prison?

The problem is injustice.

648 posted on 10/20/2006 11:17:53 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo
The problem is injustice.

And exempting the police from the laws they are sworn to enforce guarantees injustice.

649 posted on 10/20/2006 11:20:02 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: PRND21

I noticed that you completely ignored the threads I pinged you to regarding the jurors' comments. Typical.


650 posted on 10/20/2006 11:45:15 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
I noticed that you completely ignored the threads I pinged you to regarding the jurors' comments. Typical.

Your "pings"are typically nonsense.

651 posted on 10/20/2006 12:56:06 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: no dems
but prosecutors charged that they had no reason to shoot at the fleeing man, who later claimed he was unarmed

Vicki Weaver was unarmed, too. 15 years later, her assassin still walks free.

652 posted on 10/20/2006 1:18:53 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000,

It's the loyalty thing, y'know.

653 posted on 10/20/2006 1:33:54 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: B4Ranch; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; OXENinFLA; bitt; JustPiper; KittyKares; MamaDearest; ...
Bio:  
Cardone, Kathleen
Born 1953 in Medina, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Western District of Texas
Nominated by George W. Bush on May 1, 2003, to a new seat created by 116 Stat. 1758; Confirmed by the Senate on July 28, 2003, and received commission on July 29, 2003.

Education:
State University of New York at Binghamton, B.A., 1976

St. Marys School of Law, J.D., 1979

Professional Career:
Briefing attorney, Hon. Philip A. Schraub, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, 1979-1980
Private practice, Texas, 1980-1990
Judge, Municipal Court for the City of El Paso, Texas, 1983-1990
Associate judge, Family Law Court of Texas, 1990-1995
Judge, 383rd Judicial District Court of Texas, 1995-1996
Attorney/mediator, Texas Arbitration Mediation Services, 1997-1999
Instructor (part-time), El Paso Community College, 1997-2003
Judge, 388th Judicial District Court of Texas, 1999-2000
Mediator, Texas Arbitration Mediation Services, 2001-2003
Visiting judge, State of Texas, 2001-2003

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Female

654 posted on 10/20/2006 1:43:52 PM PDT by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Smartass; All

Thanks for the ping....


We must never forget which side of the illegal immigration/amnesty/border issues our President and D.C. leadership are on.


655 posted on 10/20/2006 1:56:58 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: Kimberly GG
We must never forget which side of the illegal immigration/amnesty/border issues our President and D.C. leadership are on.

We must also never forget what a grandstanding weasel Tancredo has become.
The agents were rightfully convicted and Tancredo's defense of them is Jessesque.

656 posted on 10/20/2006 2:05:53 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Johnny Sutton, US Attorney responsible for this.

Maybe he's the offspring of bank robber Eddie Sutton, who when famously asked, "Why do you rob banks?" said, "Because that's where the money is!"

"Johnny Sutton, why do you prosecute public servants for doing their job?"

"Because that's where the career advancement is!"

657 posted on 10/20/2006 2:11:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: PRND21

Tancredo is not a threat to the sovereignty and security of our country. Bush is. The fact that you feel threatened by it being pointed out, is YOUR problem.


658 posted on 10/20/2006 2:22:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: Kimberly GG
Tancredo is not a threat to the sovereignty and security of our country. Bush is.

Phhhfffttt.

659 posted on 10/20/2006 2:25:00 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Why do you support the scum-sucking drug smuggler in this abominations of a case? You have much wrath for these two men trying to do a difficult job, but nothing but sympathy for the drug mule.

Twisted.

660 posted on 10/20/2006 2:26:11 PM PDT by JCEccles
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