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School Shooting:Multiple Deaths in Lancaster, PA Amish School, Shooter Kills Self
Fox News Alert ^ | 02 OCT 06

Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: SunnyUsa; Michael Goldsberry
I pray they can save them as well......

Lord place Your Divine healing hand on these dear children and restore them to wholeness, we plead! In Your Son's precious Name, we pray.....

1,201 posted on 10/02/2006 1:57:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: mewzilla

She called him first, as any wife would. The cops were already there when she called him. She obviously notified the cops at some point, or they wouldn't have had the info from her for the press release.


1,202 posted on 10/02/2006 1:57:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: ohioWfan
Amen

1,203 posted on 10/02/2006 2:00:26 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Abby4116
The teacher was the one who called 911 from a neighboring farm house at 10:36. Police were on the scene at 10:45. The shooting started just before 11, while the negotiator was trying to get the gunman on his cell phone.

He brought 2x4's and 2x6's to barricade the doors. He piled desks in front of the doors.

The boys were told to leave. He TIED the girls using either wire ties or flexcuffs and lined them up in front of the blackboard.

He then executed them!

Dear Lord, have mercy.

1,204 posted on 10/02/2006 2:00:58 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: BykrBayb

I'm just curious about the amount of time between when she found the notes and when she talked to her husband.


1,205 posted on 10/02/2006 2:01:21 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hellinahandcart; sasha123
but you're hoping an event from 20 years ago (which IMO is imaginary) will somehow explain his actions. It won't.

An event from 20 years ago, when he was 12, is not an excuse, reason, or anything else for this horrible man's actions. I grew up in a highly dysfunctional family and none of what my brother did in his adult years was justified by events from our childhood. We both grew up in the same circumstances and we both had to make our own choices. He chose not to change. I took the path less traveled by my family and that has made all the difference.

As of last month his choices brought him to meet his maker at the end of a cops' gun.

The only one responsible for the horrors he brought to the people in this life is himself.

This scumbag from todays events is no better.

1,207 posted on 10/02/2006 2:02:33 PM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: mewzilla

I wasn't aware there was any delay. It's my understanding that she found the notes, read them, and immediately called him. I can't think of any reason she would wait.


1,208 posted on 10/02/2006 2:02:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
Some people would rather die than renounce God.

Well I should hope so. This body is just temporary.

1,209 posted on 10/02/2006 2:03:47 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm the Pilots. Arm the Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum.)
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To: Palladin

We're removing side issues and posts which otherwise criticize and blame the victims including the Amish community as a whole.


1,210 posted on 10/02/2006 2:08:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: SE Mom

Sorry, I didn't see that post. My observations are coming from frustration, anger, deep sorrow, and despair at knowing there is such evil abroad in the land.

I know that some families in Nickel Mines have suffered multiple losses today.

God be with all of these good and gentle people, and may the Holy Spirit inspire their leaders with wisdom to protect and defend their communities in these troubled modern times.


1,211 posted on 10/02/2006 2:10:49 PM PDT by Palladin (Log Cabin Republicans have wooden heads.)
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To: hellinahandcart

please see 1186

I know of someone's kid whose been off their medication for a while, they act crazy and paranoid. It worries me alot. So, please do not try and interpret my intentions. Sorry, I cannot fathom this. It's hard for any normal person to comprehend a crime directed towards innocent children or anybody at that.


1,212 posted on 10/02/2006 2:11:05 PM PDT by sasha123
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To: EBH

I'm sorry to hear that EBH.


1,213 posted on 10/02/2006 2:12:22 PM PDT by sasha123
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To: Admin Moderator

OK. I was not in any way blaming the victims.

Just bewildered, like everyone else at this point.


1,214 posted on 10/02/2006 2:12:46 PM PDT by Palladin (Log Cabin Republicans have wooden heads.)
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To: boxerblues
I have a group of Amish men doing some work on my house. I was shocked to see a cell phone on the eldest man. I asked him about it and he said if they want work they need to be able to get in contact with the outside world. He turns it on 7AM and it gets shut off at 4PM no exceptions. The battery is charged up on his generator

That jibes with my limited understanding of the Amish approach to technology. Land in PA is expensive, and Amish communities aren't able to support themselves entirely by farming any more; so as they venture into other areas of business, they have to make concessions to enter into commerce with the English.

It's not too dissimilar to Orthodox Jews. There's an orthodox temple near my house, and on Saturdays I see a large number of people on the sidewalk making their way to services. The small parking lot at the temple is also full. Parishioners who are elderly, or handicapped, or who otherwise can't or shouldn't walk to temple aren't viewed any less favorably than the folks who can and do walk.

The key point is that most "plain folk" -- Amish, Mennonites, Orthodox Jews, and like-minded communities -- don't have a doctrinaire opposition to technology. What they oppose is selfishness, isolation, luxury and vanity. It's not a world-view I share, but it's well thought out, constantly re-examined, and worthy of respect.

The technologies that we use in our daily lives as a matter of convenience, they would accept, but only as a matter of necessity. For example, in today's school shooting, I would guess that evacuating the wounded children by ambulance and helicopter will not raise a whisper of protest.

1,215 posted on 10/02/2006 2:13:38 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: hellinahandcart

I agree, and even if in his deranged mind, "something/anything" happened 20 years ago...NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING could even remotely be used to justify this slaughter in anything except the mind of a person who has embraced the darkest of evil with his whole being.


1,216 posted on 10/02/2006 2:13:51 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Palladin

Okay, thanks.


1,217 posted on 10/02/2006 2:13:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Palladin

Amen


1,218 posted on 10/02/2006 2:13:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: DCBryan1
AP is running a story with this ridiculous headline:
Milk man kills girls at Pa. Amish school


It makes it sound like Charley the Milk Man was delivering milk and just snapped.

The fact that he was a "milk man" is totally irrelevant to the story, and the headline totally obscures the fact that he was a sadistic, murderous monster.

I hate the MSM.
1,219 posted on 10/02/2006 2:14:35 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: ohioWfan
An adult does not leave little girls with an obviously crazy man with a gun. One does not do that. Ever.
1,220 posted on 10/02/2006 2:16:54 PM PDT by processing please hold
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