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To: wyattearp
The text does not denote an either/or choice. Every knee shall bow whether it burns or not. The Apostle Paul was not a tyrant, and neither is God. Paul, as an instrument in the interest of making known what is true about the Creator, humbly gave up his life on behalf of the Church. God, in the interest of drawing all people to Himself, humbly gave up His life in the form of a Servant.

Maybe you think it's cool to spit in the face of someone who died for you, even when that Person happens to be your Maker. Whatever. "Tyrant" He ain't. Why not take a look at yourself instead?

Or maybe you think it is tyranny to be born with reason and senses and have them to enjoy in the service of yourself and your neighbor. Maybe you think cool water and good food is served up by this nasty "tyrant" who divested Himself of glory to win you for Himself. Whatever. It's more important to turn science classes into indoctrination classes in the interest of protecting your personal notions of truth.

Or maybe you think it is unfair that you are subject to someone greater than yourself, even though many who are greater than you serve day and night to make sure you enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Trying being your own master and doing whatever is your heart's desire sometime, and then we'll see who the real tyrant is.

Even humanly speaking ignorance is no excuse when it comes to the law. Is that a tyrannical concept? If so, then try starting a government based upon your personal principles and see how long it lasts.
267 posted on 07/27/2006 6:57:43 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Nice post. Clearly Evangelism is your strong suit. I would stay with it if I were you.


274 posted on 07/27/2006 7:01:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The text does not denote an either/or choice. Every knee shall bow whether it burns or not. The Apostle Paul was not a tyrant, and neither is God. Paul, as an instrument in the interest of making known what is true about the Creator, humbly gave up his life on behalf of the Church. God, in the interest of drawing all people to Himself, humbly gave up His life in the form of a Servant.

Maybe you think it's cool to spit in the face of someone who died for you, even when that Person happens to be your Maker. Whatever. "Tyrant" He ain't. Why not take a look at yourself instead?

Or maybe you think it is tyranny to be born with reason and senses and have them to enjoy in the service of yourself and your neighbor. Maybe you think cool water and good food is served up by this nasty "tyrant" who divested Himself of glory to win you for Himself. Whatever. It's more important to turn science classes into indoctrination classes in the interest of protecting your personal notions of truth.

Or maybe you think it is unfair that you are subject to someone greater than yourself, even though many who are greater than you serve day and night to make sure you enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Trying being your own master and doing whatever is your heart's desire sometime, and then we'll see who the real tyrant is.

Even humanly speaking ignorance is no excuse when it comes to the law. Is that a tyrannical concept? If so, then try starting a government based upon your personal principles and see how long it lasts.


Very well said and it deserves to be repeated.

Thanks
295 posted on 07/27/2006 7:09:50 PM PDT by be4everfree
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Maybe you think it's cool to spit in the face of someone who died for you, even when that Person happens to be your Maker. Whatever. "Tyrant" He ain't. Why not take a look at yourself instead?

I don't believe that there is such a face to spit in. In any case, spitting in people's faces is not my style. I have read the Bible through several times, cover to cover, both the KJV and New American Standard. You talk about Paul, but what about Moses? He sacrificed everything, and even gave 40 years of his life leading a bunch of whiny, griping people, and was not allowed into the promised land because he got mad - once. Is that loving and caring, or tyrannical? God used him up and threw him away, all because he got mad - once.

339 posted on 07/27/2006 7:42:00 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Trying being your own master and doing whatever is your heart's desire sometime, and then we'll see who the real tyrant is.

I do that now. Always have done. My heart is not evil, and I do not have evil desires (contrary to what many Christians have said of - and to - me on this forum).

340 posted on 07/27/2006 7:44:16 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Or maybe you think it is unfair that you are subject to someone greater than yourself, even though many who are greater than you serve day and night to make sure you enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Veteran, USN, Electronic Warfare Technician, USS Berkeley, DDG-15. I have well over a dozen cousins (lost track years ago) that either are veterans, or are currently serving this country. My nephew is on his second tour in Iraq. Both of my grandfathers were Navy. My father was 82nd Airborne. My stepfather was a Marine. Two of my uncles were in Vietnam, one in Cobras, the other on a Carrier.

Stuff it.

349 posted on 07/27/2006 7:50:55 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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