What are Darwinists so afraid of?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/27/2006 | Jonathan Witt

[P-Marlowe]

A God that goes "*whap* Here is Adam" is a God that is personal and understandable -- Gandalf writ large.

He said it took him SIX DAYS. It was a "work". He rested when it was complete.

A God that could stand outside the Universe (or all Universes as it were) and design every little tiny aspect is a God that is way too awesome and uncomprehendable.

Most of the evos on this forum ridicule the idea that God designed every single atom in the universe. They insist that at best God created Hydrogen and then went to sleep.

The God of the Bible created and designed everything even down to that hand that everyone on this thread wants to ridicule as being just an accident of nature.

I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. (Psalms 139:14 KJV)

Made. Do you believe that? Are we fearfully and wonderfully made, or are we typically and naturally evolved?

[JHBowden]

"What are Darwinists so afraid of?"

Well, in my case, I'm afraid of higher taxes, religious fanatics like those in the Party of God (the Hezb'Allah), and Hillary Clinton.

[thomaswest]

Re 338: Speaking of real life, would you please tell me the number of people who seriously, in real life, believe an airborne spaghetti critter is responsible for the creation and maintenance of the physical universe. Be sure to quote credible sources. I mean, not that two-dozen people can't be wrong, but it does matter in real life. IMO, such people - like those who belive organized matter performing specific functions can arise entirely without intelligence or design - are a long noodle short of a full bowl. No sauce.

You are correct, the Pastafarian movement is small today. This is no impediment. Christianity began with a prophet and a few apostles. Mormonism began with just Joseph Smith; Christian Science started with just Mary Baker Eddy. Pat Robertson started out small, and today gets $130 million per year. Being small at the beginning leads to rich rewards later.

There are no credible sources. In this regard, Pastafarians are like the Discovery Institute, and 'intelligent design'. The Flying Spahetti Monster movement is based on the creed that "we don't need no friggin' evidence, we just make it up as we go along."

However, the Pastafarian faith is attracting adherents and growing at three (3) times the rate of Southern Baptists.

It would be inappropriate for me to speak on behalf of the personal beliefs of other Pastafarians, but in general we recognize unintelligent design when we see it, and we have little faith in either ancient scripts or theories of eternity.

[wyattearp]

That's way too clever.

Try reading all of the responses to it, not just the last line of the last one. BTW, does your family have as many veterans/servicemen/servicewomen as mine does? If it does, or even if it doesn't, don't you think that what Fester wrote was downright offensive, and totally deserving of a "stuff it"? Trying to claim that other people are serving my country when I am not, when I have, and I come from a family that has a very long and proud military tradition?

When somebody says something like that without knowing anything about the person whom they are saying it to, the response is usually a bit more aggressive than "stuff it". I was showing a bit of restraint (which wasn't easy), and trying not to get an "Admin-Moderator" generated time-out (or worse).

Incidentally, Fester isn't normally like that, and neither am I. We have had quite a number of discussions, sometimes going on for days.

[presently no screen name]

SO WELL SAID!

Man is not the product of evolution. Man is a special creation of God. We were created in the image and likeness of God. We are not the product of chance, but of purpose

Geneis 1

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image,in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

God's Word says that what He made was good. Therefore, what He made did not evolve into something else. He made it how He liked it and wanted it 'in the beginning'.

[xzins]

Those who do bad in the name of God are the best tools of Satan.

I can agree with that. By way of example, it describes the 10 northern tribes during the days of the Kings of Israel.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Quite a few large bio related companies use evolution theory and other derived theories to make new drugs and treatments.

What happens when some of those "geniuses" create something we cannot get rid of???

(You don't want to go there, because the idiots already have...)

[P-Marlowe]

If I understand correctly, there is no "or else". Every knee shall bow, including those destined for hell. P-Marlowe, please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. (Isaiah 45:23 KJV)

Not a lot of wiggle room there. Whether in worship of his mercy and glory or in fear of his impending judgment, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW.

[wyattearp]

As for the rest those are my observations of Darwiniacs.

Congratulations! You finally found an insult! Of course, you are the one who made it...

Now where did they hide all those millions of transitional species??

They're not hidden, although I think that "millions" is a bit over the top. Nobody has claimed "millions" of transitional species either. Quit making stuff up.

They have all been published. There have been many posts right here on FR discussing them. Try actually reading the information that others have posted. Try clicking on the links. I am not going to re-post what others have already posted, only to have you stick your fingers in your ears and scream "LALALALALALA".

[JHBowden]

Books are technology just like software and movies. Claiming that code and DVDs are divinely inspired would be perceived to be crazy, and I've always been confused why books receive special treatment.

Anyway, what seems to be at issue here is not evolution per se, but the believed inerrancy of religious texts.

[Not A Snowbird]

Thanks, I thought I was right. (I'm a little tentative on these threads... the slightest misspeak and you get leaped on from every direction.)

:-)

[elkfersupper]

What are Darwinists so afraid of?

Oh I don't know.

Perhaps such things as the regeneration of the Taliban in Mayberry, a replay of the Spanish Inquisition, or a reprise of the persecution of Copernicus.

Beyond that, nothing much.

[Fester Chugabrew]

No problem. My point was that what may seem to us tyrannical may in fact be liberating. Your service being a case in point. You may have had to make judgments of a serious nature, even life and death decisions. It is no different for our Maker. We might make a mistake in that regard. He does not.

I do not know anyone, from the most profound atheist to the most devout Christian who has never questioned God, myself included. It is only proper to consider that maybe God has provided a means whereby His actions and intentions are not misunderstood, that means being the biblical texts which point very clearly to the fact the He Himself took up our frail nature and endured death so that we might live forever with Him and our families. That is science. Darwin is, to a great extent, fiction.

[thomaswest]

Re 378: Your point is what?

[wyattearp]

and they was half of the subjects on my exams.

Good thing they other half weren't English. (Sorry, Coyoteman, I just had to).

[MHGinTN]

Excuse me, but could you provide a link to the source from which your citation on the feathered reptile was copied? Thanx ...

[Fester Chugabrew]

Ad hominem is your stock in trade.

Naw. It's just an occasional blip I like to toss at those who think the physical universe popped up of its own accord and then demand the title "scientist by law."

[bray]

Hitler thought the Germans were the master race, the highest achievement of creation evolution"...I fixed it for you. I don't think Hitler thought Jews and Aryans had a common ancestor, do you?

Actually the Nazi Bible took all of the Jews out of it as well as the cross which was replaced with a lance.

Hitler was a big follower of Eugenics and was attempting to make a Master Race through evolution.

Pray for W and Our Troops

Shalom Israel

[thomaswest]

Re 379: Ah, this antediluvian god is full of unpredictabilities. He maketh the rain to fall on the just and unjust equally. Presently, he is making no rain in fundie areas, like Oklahoma and Lubbock, Texas.

Must be time to curse the rain god, since prayer hasn't helped.

[freedumb2003]

Most of science has more evidence than your cult. How did the eye "evolve"? What good is an eye that doesn't work do? Let me hear your "theory".

The eye evolved as did everything else.