Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals

EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

[freedumb2003]

Well, let's see - if we agreed, it wouldn't be an argument. So now you want to argue about what an argument is?

BUAHAHAHAHAHHA!

You DON'T know what an argument is!! LOLOLOLOL! I didn't think you would actually post your ignorance.

Hint: An argument is unilateral ;)

[mlc9852]

I don't mind posting my ignorance. Look at some of my posts and you'll see!

[Zavien Doombringer]

Truth is an absolute, anything from the truth is a lie. There is no grey, but compromise. The truth lies in the fact that 2 boards can be put together. The lie would be, they could not.

The method of putting the two boards lies in truth.

nailing them together = Yes

Glueing them = Yes

Nailing and glueing = Yes

Dove tail = Yes

Pins/dowels = Yes

Using rubber bands = No

Your point is that you choose to believe that truth is only relative to your belief. When infact people believed the earth was once flat, which is not true. therefore what people believe doesn't constitute truth.

[js1138]

Actually, there are now two new gaps.

[jec41]

I simply pointed out that the anti-ID and anti-Creationist movement among evolutionists have made the argument that life cannot be observed as a fact in and of itself without reference to evolution.

Show me the arguments. Science has only said that Creation and ID cannot be explained by science because they have not been observed as a material fact. If either can observe life different present the material fact and evidence.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Ah, but you are so quick to say evolution is truth, yet you tell me to prove otherwise, I tell you to provide a source for your comment and you cannot....

Hypocrite!

Who is more qualified on the subject of life more than God?

[freedumb2003]

I don't mind posting my ignorance. Look at some of my posts and you'll see!

Well, unadulterated inorance undermines your position.

Do a little research -- it is easy on the web.

FYI: An argument is a series of (logically provable) statements that support a proposition.

[mlc9852]

Thanks. I appreciate your help. It isn't easy being an illiterate Freeper!

[Fester Chugabrew]

. . . evolutionary biology is science . . .

It is until it starts making statements to the exclusion of, or against intelligent design. When faced with the idea that organized matter performing specific functions MIGHT be best explained by intelligent design, evolutionists cannot shut their mouths, even though they have nothing better to offer. Whatever they decide to offer as a better explanation, if ever such a thing should happen, it will not be science either.

And to the extent they posit scenarios that involve unobserved, undocumented events, they also depart from empirical science and step into the void of reasonable conjecture based upon their own a priori assumptions, such as uniformitarianism.

[jec41]

Creation remains faith and belief, not a observed material fact."

Creation is all around us - how can you say it isn't observed?

What creation have you observed as a material fact.

[mlc9852]

Define "material fact".

[Elsie]

NIV Isaiah 59:15
Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The LORD looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

[freedumb2003]

It isn't easy being an illiterate Freeper!

Between me and you, it isn't possible. ;)

[Michael_Michaelangelo]

JS1138 wonders, as Darwin did...

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"#826"

No, I got the point. You believe whatever one wishes to be reality can be.

"Sometimes "black" is "white""

And war is peace. More doublespeak.

"However, in terms of things spiritual, concepts such as "objective reality" don't have meaning."

True. But Christians don't believe that the Bible deals only in things *spiritual*. They believe it deals with objective reality too, something you deny exists.

[js1138]

Workin' in a quote mine
Goin' down down down
Workin' in a quote mine
Whop! about to slip down
Workin' in a quote mine
Goin' down down down
Workin' in a quote mine
Whop! about to slip down
Five o'clock in the mornin'
I'm all ready up and gone
Lord I am so tired
How long can this go on?

[js1138]

Your level of personal moral depravity has no bottom, does it?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" It is until it starts making statements to the exclusion of, or against intelligent design."

Evolutionary biology has nothing to say about ID, because ID isn't science.

"Whatever they decide to offer as a better explanation, if ever such a thing should happen, it will not be science either."

Evolutionary biology and abiogensis IS a better explanation. ID explains nothing. It says *we don't know how this happened, so God did it, stop looking!!*.

"And to the extent they posit scenarios that involve unobserved, undocumented events, they also depart from empirical science and step into the void of reasonable conjecture based upon their own a priori assumptions, such as uniformitarianism."

Uniforamitarianism posits observed, documented events and extrapolates that into the past. ID posits unobserved, undocumented, and untestable causes and says there is no need to look any further. It's heuristically worthless.

[jec41]

Define "material fact".

A material fact is a phenomena that can be observed by the senses and there is evidence and emperical evidence for the fact. The method of science is obsevation of a material fact, evidence and emperical evidence of the fact and a explination of the fact that constitutes theory. The method does not observe anything other than a material fact. Without a material fact there can be no scientific theory. Facts are not absolute and a theory is of a higher order than a fact.

[jec41]

Define "material fact".

A material fact is a phenomena that can be observed by the senses and there is evidence and emperical evidence for the fact. The method of science is obsevation of a material fact, evidence and emperical evidence of the fact and a explination of the fact that constitutes theory. The method does not observe anything other than a material fact. Without a material fact there can be no scientific theory. Facts are not absolute and a theory is of a higher order than a fact.