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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:35 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 04/05/2006 10:33:43 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm figuring the posting of Helen Thomas pix will start about here:
3 posted on 04/05/2006 10:35:37 AM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "Hollywood is the gold cap on a tooth that should have been pulled out years ago.")
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To: PatrickHenry

OH NO!!!

Two more missing transitional fossils!!


4 posted on 04/05/2006 10:36:00 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PatrickHenry

Wonder how many pictures of Helen Thomas or Cynthia McKinney or Cindy Sheehan will show up on this thread?


5 posted on 04/05/2006 10:36:28 AM PDT by b4its2late (There are good terrorists.............. DEAD ONES.)
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To: PatrickHenry
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6 posted on 04/05/2006 10:36:31 AM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: PatrickHenry
Related article in Nature: The fish that crawled out of the water: A newly found fossil links fish to land-lubbers..
7 posted on 04/05/2006 10:36:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Just remember, evolution is ONLY a theory.


8 posted on 04/05/2006 10:39:48 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: PatrickHenry
The scientists worked through the Department of Culture, Language, Elders and Youth in Nunavut to collaborate with the local Inuit communities. All fossils are the property of the people of Nunavut and will be returned to Canada after they are studied.

Is the existence of a "Department of Culture, Language, Elders, and Youth" a sign of devolution? Are Canadians about to slither back into the primordial ooze?

9 posted on 04/05/2006 10:40:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT)
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Why do all fossils have a specific place in the tree of life?

The Tree of Life is a model illustrating the relationships between species. The relationships show the common descent of life on earth. It's like a jigsaw puzzle with millions of pieces (fossils and living species). After diligent research by generations of scientists -- not only biologists, but scientists from separate disciplines like geology, paleontology, organic chemistry, astronomy, and nuclear physics (for radiometric dating techniques) -- the pieces all fit. They lock into place in several independently cross-confirming ways, including form, function, chronology, and molecular biochemistry.

When jigsaw puzzles are properly assembled, a picture emerges; with data, a scientific theory emerges. In this case, the "picture" is the theory of evolution. There are still some missing pieces, and there probably always will be, but the evidence now assembled is more than sufficient to reveal the picture. There is so much evidence that at this point, the picture itself can confidently be used as a guide for predicting the fit of new pieces that are found. When they are put in place, DNA evidence shows a close, pre-existing relationship of the pieces that we've fitted together, thus confirming the picture; any re-arranging the pieces would be inconsistent with such evidence.

Other well-established theories function similarly. For example, after decades of matching stellar distances (determined by Cepheid variables) with the redshift of their images, the redshift alone is now used as a reliable guide to distance -- subject to verification whenever a Cepheid variable is available, which always confirms the redshift's information.
Creationists are forever claiming that the evolutionary picture revealed by the evidentiary jigsaw puzzle is nothing more than the arbitrary result of our prejudices, and that by using different presuppositions the puzzle's pieces could be assembled some other way, and the pieces would match up just as well -- but presumably would show their own preferred picture. So why don't they ever do it?

Instead of actually doing research, they always ask: "Where are the transitional fossils?" When presented with a truckload of them, they claim that they're all fakes, or they sometimes retreat to their fallback position: "Why don't you have more transitional fossils?" We find more every year, but somehow they are never enough for the creationists. No matter how many more are found, they will never be enough. They are the OJ jury, for whom no amount of evidence will suffice. They never stop to consider that even one transitional fossil contradicts the concept of special creation.

But the questions should flow in the other direction. Creationist should be asked: "Where are the anachronistic fossils -- the preposterous fossils, the incongruous fossils that we should expect if the tree of life is incorrect?"

If they want to challenge the tree of life, let them produce something like a pegasus fossil, or any other evidence that is inconsistent, incompatible, and irreconcilable with the theory of evolution.

10 posted on 04/05/2006 10:42:23 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

So is Gravity, Microbial disease, and drug receptors.


11 posted on 04/05/2006 10:42:25 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (I grew up in a slum, when I got to college it had become a "ghetto".)
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To: PatrickHenry

Huh!!

12 posted on 04/05/2006 10:43:07 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Doing the job illegals shouldn't do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals.


13 posted on 04/05/2006 10:43:30 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: PatrickHenry
Here's Acanthostega, until now, the closest link we had to fish and tetrapods:

When I did a search for "Tiktaalik", Google asked if I meant "Tiktak, which is not a mint, but a Finnish pop band.

14 posted on 04/05/2006 10:44:50 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: PatrickHenry
I always thought the lungfish was the link.


15 posted on 04/05/2006 10:45:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: PatrickHenry
Interestingly I notice that the Transition from primitive bony fish to amphibians section of the Transitional Vertebrate Fossil FAQ contains the note:

GAP: Ideally, of course, we want an entire skeleton from the middle Late Devonian, not just limb fragments. Nobody's found one yet.

I consider this to be the gap filled in.

16 posted on 04/05/2006 10:46:38 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: PatrickHenry

but... that creates TWO MORE GAPS!!!


17 posted on 04/05/2006 10:48:04 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Just always good to remind people that evolution is just a theory....:)


18 posted on 04/05/2006 10:48:42 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: PatrickHenry

This was predicted by Intelligent Design theory. The Emperor had forseen it.


19 posted on 04/05/2006 10:48:48 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Separated at birth?


20 posted on 04/05/2006 10:50:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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