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Jeb Bush Calls Tone of Immigration Debate `Hurtful' (Official "Bush Picks At Toe Jam" th
LA Times ^ | 4/5/06 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 04/05/2006 5:50:41 AM PDT by zook

WASHINGTON — Accusing politicians of "pounding their chests" on immigration for short-term political gain, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba.

Bush, the younger brother of President Bush, reserved some of his sharpest criticism for conservatives in his own Republican Party, calling it "just plain wrong" to charge illegal immigrants with a felony, as a provision passed by the Republican-led House would do. He also opposed "penalizing the children of illegal immigrants" by denying them U.S. citizenship, an idea backed by some conservatives but not included in the legislation.

"My wife came here legally, but it hurts her just as it hurts me when people give the perception that all immigrants are bad," the Florida governor wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aduck; aliens; awitch; border; constamatootionparty; florida; immigrantdebate; immigration; jebbush; kickthedog; latimes; madeofwood; mexicanwife; newsignups; xenophobia
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To: sasafras

"Dont be so offended - your buddies will look after you."




Which buddies would those be? I have disagreed with every person who agrees with me on this issue. Calling President Bush a traitor is simply unacceptable, in my view.

Disagree with his positions? OK. I do, too. Call him a traitor? Nope. It's just not done.


241 posted on 04/05/2006 8:43:29 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: sinkspur

"You better be glad I'm not one....."


Ooooooooooooooh a threat oooh Im so scarrrrrrrrrred. There are alot on this board who are starting to figure out - who the moderators are or have close links to.

Speak out against Bush too many times or dare to use the term "Bushbot" and moderator steps in. Seems to happen alot when your around sinkspur.

Tell me, were you the kid in school always crying to the teacher??


242 posted on 04/05/2006 8:44:37 AM PDT by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: MineralMan

Professional career politicians are by and large POS.

Having volunteered in both 2000 and 2004 for GWB and the GOP, I am utterly disgusted with what is going on.

This proposed plan is absolutely a sham. Without shutting down the border, we will just get a whole new flood of illegals to undermine those now who must pay taxes and work on the books.

Without strict enforcement, this plan will just invite millions more to flood the country since the employers will be looking to save on workers comp, FICA, SS, etc.


243 posted on 04/05/2006 8:44:40 AM PDT by chris1
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To: verity

No, a bad second term buyers' remorse itus.

Seriously, would Kerry be doing anything different than Bush is now doing?


244 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:09 AM PDT by chris1
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To: samcgwire
Finally!

Someone with a "Positive" message?

245 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:35 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (MSM Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission!")
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To: MineralMan
And you have joined the list of people who misuse the word "traitor."

You are wrong.

Here is the definition of "traitor"...........

Traitor: One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason.

As you see, the word "or" is used--you are 100% wrong when you say calling one a "traitor" is "accusing them of treason".

Jeb Bush, along with his brother and Congress, are traitors to the "cause" (see definition)--the conservative cause. When you align yourself with the Republican party, you are associating yourself with the party of law and order and limited government.

It is as clear as can be they have all been traitors to the conservative cause. To deny so is to deny facts of words spoken and the Office of Management and Budget data tables on spending.

246 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:40 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: sasafras
I notice your talk of impeachment has stopped.

That's a definite improvement.

247 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:51 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: TomGuy
It seems the whole Bush family doesn't mind the invasion of illegals.

Like the Kennedy's, they never enter a Wal-Mart, they never get out of their cars and pump gas at night when a meancing crowd of illegals pulls up at the next pump and gets out to strut around as though they owned the place, they do not send children to schools with Latin gang problems....they are of the class where it only means cheaper lawn care, childcare, and the general convenience of a class of menials who they can hire to do their fetching and carrying at a wage so low it does not phase them. Nobody in their family would ever imagine himself entering the carpentry trade to discover that it is now closed to gringos.

Enough of these Bushes...

248 posted on 04/05/2006 8:47:32 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: chris1; verity; sinkspur

Check out the sign up dates for sinkspur and verity. Very close. These guys are tied to the moderators so be very careful, free speech is allowed as long as we toe the RINO party line.

Im sure this will get pulled - right sinkspur?


249 posted on 04/05/2006 8:48:07 AM PDT by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: dirtboy
it isn't about "browning" of America

Maybe not for you, but it is the issue for many white folks.

Last month, I went to Orange, California, and walked from my hotel to a taqueria on Chapman Ave, Garden Grove. I was surprised at the browning of the whole neighborhood since my last visit.

I am not one of those people who feel unsafe in the presence of brown people, but I did feel like a minority in my own country. That's the feeling that many white people share among themselves when they don't have to be PC.

Do you want to see my mom irritated? Take her to a formerly white area that has zillions of brown people who speak broken English and have different mores from white people. I've observed the same reaction from her friends.

I am a bird of different kind, since I already learned Spanish and am learning Portuguese right now. I adapt, but my parents are fed up with the rapid browning of America.

there are about 100,000 illegal Irish immigrants in this country, for example, and they should be shown the door as well.

No, I don't want any Irish sent back, legal or not.

250 posted on 04/05/2006 8:48:41 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: chris1
Truly, you are disgusting.
251 posted on 04/05/2006 8:48:48 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (MSM Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission!")
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To: MineralMan
"Where will this nonsense end?"


Apparently, it ends really bad. And Bush & Co. have their fingerprints all over it.
252 posted on 04/05/2006 8:48:55 AM PDT by samcgwire (samcgwire was or was not here today, depending on why you want to know.)
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To: samcgwire

So long as it is in the name of making a dollar, they don't care a wit of the results of their actions.


253 posted on 04/05/2006 8:48:55 AM PDT by chris1
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

"especially one who commits treason.
"




When no qualifying words are used, the above is the usual and customary definition of "traitor," especially when applied to someone in high office.

You use it wrongly. Disagree with the President, and you'll have no argument with me. Call him a "traitor," though, and I'll be right here.


254 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:21 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: chris1

I would be apoplectic is Kerry were the President.


255 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:38 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: SUSSA

Prepare for the worst and pray for the best.


256 posted on 04/05/2006 8:50:59 AM PDT by samcgwire (samcgwire was or was not here today, depending on why you want to know.)
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To: george wythe
No, I don't want any Irish sent back, legal or not.

Well, then for you, the issue is ethnic. For most of us against illegal immigration, it's about immigration laws having meaning.

257 posted on 04/05/2006 8:51:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: george wythe

"No, I don't want any Irish sent back, legal or not."




Hilarious! Illegal immigration is OK with you, as long as the illegals look like you? How bizarre!


258 posted on 04/05/2006 8:51:27 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Why?????? Can't take the truth that this plan is a sham and will only encourage millions of more to flood our country to undermine the newly minted "guests"?


259 posted on 04/05/2006 8:51:29 AM PDT by chris1
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