Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.
"And a very Merry Christmas to you and your family!"
And to yours. I'm hosting Christmas dinner for 9 this year. My 8 year old nephew will be saying grace, in English, Norwegian, and German, to honor his heritage.
I always enjoy Christmas, thanks.
Thank you.
If evolutionary scientists see no difference between the two, you have pointed out why a) creation scientists are more rigorous in their thinking and b) why evolutionary scientists don't realize that the "theory" they are championing is total crap.
I am guessing you really meant to set the arbitrary bar a bit higher than that, as the evolution of new species has been observed. Of course, things like that pesky Archeopteryx that they keep discovering more fossils of have to be an annoyance to the idea that there is no evidence of higher transitions, but I'm confident in your ability to ignore trivial stuff like that.
Oh, but could you please explain why whales and boas have vestigial hips and legs, if they are not remnants of what you would call 'macro' evolution?
This tread should come with a warning label to protect the innocent and unsuspecting.
Define "not a fish".
Define "more complex than a fish".
I note that you've given up on the "no observed speciation" lie, and now you've moved on to a different creationist canard.
Hmmm, what previously made observations does your street-preacher's sign confirm? What successful predictions have been made using it? What hypothetical observations would falsify it? If you have sensible answers to those questions then you can rate the preacher's sign as a theory. Until then it is just a baseless assertion, unlike scientific theories such as the theory of evolution.
"No right, no wrong, no good, no bad. Just what happens and what happens because of it. Actions and consequences. Sad."
That would be sad. I'm sure glad I don't feel that way.
Are there any animals evolving today?
I have come to largely accept evolution since the evidence is too overwhelming, but I just do not understand this point.
I don't buy punc. eqilibrium, so what else could account for why we don't seem to have evolution in progress (evolution from one species to another, not adaptation).
It is easy. Science in science class. Religion in religion class, or in church.
"What I do have a problem is with some unelected prick telling us what we can and cannot teach!!
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Yeah! Shame on George W. Bush for appointing this activist judge, eh?
If they didn't have hips, their pants would fall down, as everyone knows whales and boas don't wear belts!
LOL. I'm ignoring Christmas this year. Just don't want to deal with the stress, which takes away from the meaning. Sounds like you all will have a wonderful time. We'll probably order a pizza and watch football - lol. Have fun. And your nephew sounds very smart. I'm sure he gets it from your side!
Certainly not. I wouldn't recognize him no matter what. Some of his own disciples didn't recognize him.
I suspect that he could be walking anywhere on this planet and not a person would recognize him.
Actually, he does walk among us. He is the living God, not a dead prophet. That is what true Christians believe. (just for your edification)
But all will recognise him instantly at the time of judgement. Every knee shall bend and every head shall bow.
"Oh, but could you please explain why whales and boas have vestigial hips and legs, if they are not remnants of what you would call 'macro' evolution?"
I know! I know! God was distracted by a cell phone call when he designed those two. I mean...you can't expect him to pay 100% attention all the time.
Augustine's exegesis was predicated on Origen's, which is why I rank Origen higher. Despite the posthumous controversy, Origen set out the bedrock of later Christian doctrine. His writings were integral to a host of 4th and 5th century theologians, including Jerome, Basil, Gregory of Nyssa, Ambrose, Augustine, Eusebius, and Gregory Nazianzen.
Yes, all species are involving all the time. Individual animals don't evolve, species do.
If you disagree (and it sounds like you do), fine. I have no qualms with that. The entire arguement about what should or should not be taught in public schools is, as far as I am concerned, outweighed by the very arguement as to whether our "public" schools in their current form should even be opperating and coersing the public largess.
People should be able to spend their hard earned monies on an education that meets with their personal beliefs as long as the basic math, reading and writing skills are met. I believe a charter or private school that wants to teach ID should be allowed to, and that parents should have the vouchers/freedom to spend their money in that manner if they so choose.
"Every knee shall bend and every head shall bow."
That'd be cool! My right knee has been messed up since I blew out the ACL skiing back in 1973. And my neck doesn't bend very well since I had three vertebrae fused together.
...he said, posting on the internet through a computer...
..the entive Catholic Church..
"No, it is not. Many religious people think that Evolution was the means by which God created Man"
The Bible is not compatable with evolution. It says there was no death prior to the fall, hence there could be no natural selection or evolution to produce mankind. The fall was also the reason for needing a Savior, and the fall is what Christ came to redeem us from, so evolution denies the very foundation of Christianity. Yes, there are churches that pick and choose from the Bible to come up with a theology that will be more popular that that, but that doesn't change the facts of how evolution and the Bible conflict.
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