Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.
You haven't noticed it because it doesn't exist. There is a group here at FR who offer the argument that believing in creation is somehow a detriment to ones abilty to learn science. It is nonsense of course but they argue it nonetheless.
That's my experience, too. The religious/home school kids get all the knowledge about evolution so they know what it's all about. They also need it for standardized testing. Some states, I think, include it on their standardized tests. (Unfairly, I think, if the questions are worded in a "loaded" way.)
Thank you for being a teacher.
Brain to keyboard issues again. I don't think religion should be TAUGHT in schools but it should not be censored. What I was thinking is that if the parents thought that religion was being taught in school by allowing ID, or if they don't like a religious atmosphere allowed, or if they even go as far as to object to religion being referred to in classes, espeically like in history, then they have the option. There are attempts to teach a religionless version of history using the argument that by teaching about it and it's role in the course of history is the same as "endorsing" it. If the parents are that concerned about what their child is being exposed to as far as religion is concerned then they have the option of pulling the kids out instead of forcing everyone else to accept their godless world view by trying to have every mention of a god removed from the classroom.
So, are you saying that ID is not religion in disguise?
Yes, you are nearly correct.
Other informed opinion blames the Chardonnay.
Very unusual, too, in that I passed up the Smoked Porter from the Natural Foods store in favor of wine.
Someday I hope to learn to read posts before replying...
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Good NightTM!
There is no societal NEED for me to violate my beliefs by contributing to a public education that contradicts (and sometimes mocks) those beliefs.
There are many alternatives ways of designing the system that would not require that.
So, you advocate shutting down inner city schools and overcrowding suburban schools.
My homeschool kids got a far better education than I ever got from the public school. In the 8th grade, they both scored above the national average for the average college bound senior. I MADE SURE that they understood everything in a topic, particularly Math, before they moved on. That's where my education fell apart. Yes, there are some things that a homeschool can not offer that a private or GOOD public school can, (I know some will disagree with me) BUT the one-on-one education can't be beat for the foundation.
If I don't like the way roads are paved, or where they go, should I be excused from paying taxes designated to build and maintain roads?
What about if I don't drive?
If I am a pacifist, should I then not be pay taxes that would go toward sustaining the military?
If I don't support the war in Iraq, as so amny Americans do, should I not pay taxes that help sustain the war effort?
Are you an anarchist?
That's correct. Stating that someone thinks that the universe was intelligently designed does not constitute a religion.
Do you believe that it was beings from another dimension?
If everyone leaves one school and goes to another, then that would send a big message about the deserted school, wouldn't it?
Just asking someone with experience in nuclear physics--is fusion entropically or energetically driven, anyway? (e.g. 2 hydrogens to 1 helium, you're losing several degrees of freedom...)
Cheers!
If you live in the inner city, but you are given the opportunity to send your kid to a school in the suburbs, sending your kids to a different school would not be a statement about the school, but rather about the place where you live.
If they could achieve that high of a literacy rate with those adverse conditions they had, it speaks very highly of them. If the Declartion of Independence is any example of the general intelligence level of the people of that time, then yes, let's get back to it. Not to mention any other historical documents, speeches, and literature produced in that era. That kind of quality is sorely lacking today.
Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. I'm signing off this thread for Christmas (and to get more work done). I've been spending a bit too much time with this, and unfortunately the invisible hand of the free market does not see fit to compensate me financially for the trouble.
I could've written that post myself, down to the closing word.
Curiouser and curiouser.
It wouldn't matter if they were from this dimension or not. Nobody is worshipping them and following them/he/she/it/whatever... The evidence is that there was a diesigner, not who the designer was. That is what ID is basically all about from what I can see.
Be careful. We may be discovering evidence of an establishment of religion here. Do you have some names we can work with?
We may be able to file a federal case about Catholic imposition of evolution.
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