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Returning to Dover [evolution trial in Dover, PA: week 2]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 October 2005 | TERESA MCMINN

Posted on 10/03/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

After a weekend break from a court case involving intelligent design, the Dover school board officials will face business as usual. The board today will hold its first school board meeting since the trial began.

On Sunday, Dover school board member David Napierski said he sympathized with the time fellow members Shelia Harkins and Alan Bonsell have spent on the court case.

“I really haven’t seen it erode them from their duties,” he said. “It definitely has taken a lot of their time . . . I think it is sapping some of the people, too.”

The trial began Sept. 26 in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg. It resumes Wednesday.

Napierski hopes to attend at least one day per week of the trial.

“We’re seeing one side of the whole picture right now,” he said. “I think it’s going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.”

He said dealing with the court case while running the school district is a “double-edged sword.

“I just hope and pray that our focus will stay on business,” he said.

School district residents might have a difficult time resuming day-to-day life as it was before the trial began.

Lonnie Langioni left his position as a school board member in Dover in 2003. He said the issue has divided the community and he wants folks to again be friends.

“We’re just going to have to let it run its course,” he said about the trial. “I’m just waiting for the day that this is all over and that the people of Dover can go back to talking to each other again.”

He said he follows the case and reads newspapers and articles online.

“It’s crossed all kinds of lines,” he said of the trial. “Dover is a great community. We all need to respect each others’ viewpoints.”

Former Dover school board member Barrie Callahan, a plaintiff in the court case, is ready to spend more time in court this week.

“The case needs to proceed,” she said Saturday. “I know the issue. To see it through the process is truly fascinating.

“You’re seeing the best of the best,” she said about attorneys. “It is an honor to be in their presence.”

She said she’s been following news of the trial posted online.

“It’s not about little tiny Dover,” she said. “This case really, really is important.”

UPDATE

Trial schedule: The trial resumes Wednesday and Thursday in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg and is scheduled to continue Oct. 12, 14, 17 through 21, 24, 27 and Nov. 2 through 4.

At stake: It’s the most significant court challenge to evolution since 1987, and it’s the first time a court has been asked to rule whether intelligent design can be taught in public schools. Experts say the case’s outcome could influence how science is defined and taught in schools across the country. The lead defense lawyer said he wanted to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Coming this week: Among the scheduled witnesses: Dover school district science teacher Bertha Spahr and Jennifer Miller and plaintiffs Cynthia Sneath, Joel Leib and Deb Fenimore.

Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University, also is scheduled. Forrest co-authored “Creationism’s Trojan Horse,” subtitled “The Wedge of Intelligent Design.”


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To: VadeRetro
My favorite "other" is "tonic," an apparent confusion of flavored, sugary water with carnival-show patent medicine. It used to be pretty common, especially among older people, when and where I was a kid.

Hmmm... so, do you speak with a New England accent by any chance?

481 posted on 10/04/2005 12:18:37 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: my sterling prose)
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To: RightWingNilla
Once you gets edumucated, youll lern yerself that evilutionst is wrong!

You have a grammatical error. It's supposed to be:

Once you gets edumucated, youll lern yerself that evilutionst are wrong!

482 posted on 10/04/2005 12:25:10 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: my sterling prose)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; balrog666; BMCDA; Dimensio; Doctor Stochastic; general_re; Ichneumon; jennyp; ...
The following post is from a friend of mine. Anyone have any ideas about it or additions to make?

Design is something we recognise if, in decreasing order of warrant:

1. We know the intentions and plan of the designer, or can reasonably infer it from context and a knowledge of the culture of the designer

2. We see evidence that the object was manufactured in a way not found in ordinary natural processes

3. If the object is a solution to a problem of means.

Complexity is not evidence of design because some designs are very simple (Corbousier), and because some undesigned things are very complex.

Life is not recognisable as design because we do not know 1, do not see 2, and have no way of knowing 3.

Quoted from: John Wilkins Philosopher of Science (biology)

483 posted on 10/04/2005 12:36:52 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: jennyp
Hmmm... so, do you speak with a New England accent by any chance?

No, and I wasn't near any of the dots on that map for "tonic." But it was mainly older people and probably not that many of those. The setting was Western Maryland and adjoining parts of West Virginia in the 50s and 60s.

484 posted on 10/04/2005 12:38:39 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: b_sharp

I forgot to add my contribution.

Specificity can only be determined if we know (1).


485 posted on 10/04/2005 12:42:35 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp
The setting was Western Maryland and adjoining parts of West Virginia in the 50s and 60s.

WVA and western Maryland, eh? This "tonic" didn't happen to come from a still, did it?

:^)

486 posted on 10/04/2005 12:43:27 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: wallcrawlr

LOL!!

In your post 413, I'm the tall one in the back.


487 posted on 10/04/2005 12:44:35 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: js1138
Has the Discovery Institute taken up the search for space aliens?

DI supports ID.

That's looks even weirder when typed.

488 posted on 10/04/2005 12:46:09 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Ichneumon

LOL!!!

Gym was my second favorite class after lunch.


489 posted on 10/04/2005 12:48:20 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: general_re
This "tonic" didn't happen to come from a still, did it?

Cleans teeth and cures tapeworms at same time!

490 posted on 10/04/2005 12:48:43 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Obscure movie reference follows...


491 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; wallcrawlr
If I thought anyone really saw me like that, I'd never let them in the door.
492 posted on 10/04/2005 12:51:47 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: js1138
Leslie Nielsen's last serious role?
493 posted on 10/04/2005 12:52:47 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Monsters from the DI.


494 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:48 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
I know!! I know!!


495 posted on 10/04/2005 12:54:10 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

IMDB images are blocked from linking.


496 posted on 10/04/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: VadeRetro
Cleans teeth...

Surely you meant "tooth" ;)

497 posted on 10/04/2005 12:59:19 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: js1138

Forbidden Planet.


498 posted on 10/04/2005 12:59:44 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: js1138

That explains why it keeps coming and going on my screen.

I'll have to try again.

This reminds me of doing graphics on the old HP9000 mainframes with the pen plotters. Seems like there should be some kind of point and click action here.


499 posted on 10/04/2005 1:00:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jennyp

You really should try going to collidge, then you will learn the newer stuffs.


500 posted on 10/04/2005 1:00:53 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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