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Returning to Dover [evolution trial in Dover, PA: week 2]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 October 2005 | TERESA MCMINN

Posted on 10/03/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

After a weekend break from a court case involving intelligent design, the Dover school board officials will face business as usual. The board today will hold its first school board meeting since the trial began.

On Sunday, Dover school board member David Napierski said he sympathized with the time fellow members Shelia Harkins and Alan Bonsell have spent on the court case.

“I really haven’t seen it erode them from their duties,” he said. “It definitely has taken a lot of their time . . . I think it is sapping some of the people, too.”

The trial began Sept. 26 in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg. It resumes Wednesday.

Napierski hopes to attend at least one day per week of the trial.

“We’re seeing one side of the whole picture right now,” he said. “I think it’s going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.”

He said dealing with the court case while running the school district is a “double-edged sword.

“I just hope and pray that our focus will stay on business,” he said.

School district residents might have a difficult time resuming day-to-day life as it was before the trial began.

Lonnie Langioni left his position as a school board member in Dover in 2003. He said the issue has divided the community and he wants folks to again be friends.

“We’re just going to have to let it run its course,” he said about the trial. “I’m just waiting for the day that this is all over and that the people of Dover can go back to talking to each other again.”

He said he follows the case and reads newspapers and articles online.

“It’s crossed all kinds of lines,” he said of the trial. “Dover is a great community. We all need to respect each others’ viewpoints.”

Former Dover school board member Barrie Callahan, a plaintiff in the court case, is ready to spend more time in court this week.

“The case needs to proceed,” she said Saturday. “I know the issue. To see it through the process is truly fascinating.

“You’re seeing the best of the best,” she said about attorneys. “It is an honor to be in their presence.”

She said she’s been following news of the trial posted online.

“It’s not about little tiny Dover,” she said. “This case really, really is important.”

UPDATE

Trial schedule: The trial resumes Wednesday and Thursday in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg and is scheduled to continue Oct. 12, 14, 17 through 21, 24, 27 and Nov. 2 through 4.

At stake: It’s the most significant court challenge to evolution since 1987, and it’s the first time a court has been asked to rule whether intelligent design can be taught in public schools. Experts say the case’s outcome could influence how science is defined and taught in schools across the country. The lead defense lawyer said he wanted to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Coming this week: Among the scheduled witnesses: Dover school district science teacher Bertha Spahr and Jennifer Miller and plaintiffs Cynthia Sneath, Joel Leib and Deb Fenimore.

Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University, also is scheduled. Forrest co-authored “Creationism’s Trojan Horse,” subtitled “The Wedge of Intelligent Design.”


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KEYWORDS: crevolist; dover; evolution
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To: RightWingNilla
Why would a designer put in 'typos' anyway?

You are assuming that with your (man's) limited understanding you can discern "typo's" in the first place.

201 posted on 10/03/2005 1:00:57 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: js1138; Nathan Zachary

Gills did not evolve into lungs. The lungs are a slightly modified flotation bladder.


202 posted on 10/03/2005 1:01:18 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Excuse me? show me an American bashing post from FD. I work in MB and live in ND.

Another example of how the US needs to get tough about keeping hostile foreigners out of our country.

203 posted on 10/03/2005 1:02:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Nathan Zachary
Excuse me? show me an American bashing post from FD. I work in MB and live in ND.

Another example of how the US needs to get tough about keeping hostile foreigners out of our country.

204 posted on 10/03/2005 1:02:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

Everyone her I talk to knows where i work and live, too bad YOU don't. And if you look at my posts at FR which I haven't posted to in a very long time, there are not any "Anti American" Posts there. Quite the opposite.

you are a bloody liar. Now, if you can't argue the topic respectfully, then stay out of it.
trying to create hatred of me is a childish, imature thing.


205 posted on 10/03/2005 1:02:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Everyone her I talk to knows where i work and live, too bad YOU don't. And if you look at my posts at FR which I haven't posted to in a very long time, there are not any "Anti American" Posts there

So when you called for Canada to ban American beef after discovery of the one mad-cow case in Washington State (which, it turns out, came from Alberta) thus attempting to damage the economy of my country and my state, you weren't being anti-American?

And when you agreed with Michael Moore that Americans are the dumbest people on the planet, that wasn't anti-American?

206 posted on 10/03/2005 1:05:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Nathan Zachary
Yep, looks like a catfish to me ;)

Or like a crayfish, some live in creeks others dig holes in a pasture, but they are all still crayfish, or other crustaceans some in water some on land, still a crustacean.

Wolf

207 posted on 10/03/2005 1:06:11 PM PDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Every single anthropologist admits that there is no transitional record.

Another ungrounded, unfounded, unsubstantiated yet sweeping assertion from you. Completely shameless.

208 posted on 10/03/2005 1:09:05 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Junior

yeah, sure. and the fossil record is where?
In case you've never gutted a fish, a air bladder is quite a bit different from lung material, and is located in the intestinal tract. Picture how that fish would 'breathe', LoL!


209 posted on 10/03/2005 1:09:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Well I think the prof has actually said us Americans are pretty dumb himself.

Wolf


210 posted on 10/03/2005 1:10:28 PM PDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: malakhi

Really? where's the proof for your statement? I at least offer up statements from some of them who manage the largest museums on the planet.


211 posted on 10/03/2005 1:12:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Junior
Apparently the walking catfish breathes with modified gills.
212 posted on 10/03/2005 1:12:57 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It doesn't matter where it resides in a fish. During the developmental process the tissue that differentiates to become a swim bladder in a fish develops into lungs in terrestrial vertebrates.

Evolution is not based solely on the fossil record. There is the genetic record, and the embryonic developmental record that also contribute evidence.

213 posted on 10/03/2005 1:13:07 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior

Do Not Feed the Trolls!

214 posted on 10/03/2005 1:14:00 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: RunningWolf
Well I think the prof has actually said us Americans are pretty dumb himself.

Yes, but we know exactly who he was referring to.

215 posted on 10/03/2005 1:14:07 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: js1138

Cool. There's evidently more than one way to skin a cat.


216 posted on 10/03/2005 1:14:58 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

" I at least offer up statements from some of them who manage the largest museums on the planet."

Like Colin Patterson?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/patterson.html


217 posted on 10/03/2005 1:16:18 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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218 posted on 10/03/2005 1:17:15 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: balrog666
This would be a good time for you to insert one of your alien lizard father of man cartoons.

Wolf
219 posted on 10/03/2005 1:17:44 PM PDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: Nathan Zachary
"I'm not going to bother looking everything up for you. it's been posted many times over. The point made is that evolution theory says life created itself. the frog is an example of what that theory assumes happened. In fact, that blended frg is giving evolution theory a chance, because all the ingredients are there, unlike at the begining of time on this planet. "evolution theory says NOTHING about the origin of life

If you want to talk about abiogenesis instead of evolutions, that's fine. Abiogenesis, or life from non-life postulates that early life started with self-replicating chemicals, something we have observed, and through the natural tendency of certain chemicals to combine in specific ways, a compound similar to RNA was formed. It would not be necessary for DNA to form for a long time. Abiognesis would only result in the simplest of organisms, such as a prion.

That blended frog may or may not contain all the chemicals necessary to jump start abiogenesis. In any case, a frog is a collection of interacting simple cells, something that took evolution time, billions of replications and various types of selection to produce. Can your vial of blended frog give 3.5 billions years, ensure imperfect replication and selection to eliminate environmentally bad combinations?

220 posted on 10/03/2005 1:17:58 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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