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To: Nathan Zachary
"I'm not going to bother looking everything up for you. it's been posted many times over. The point made is that evolution theory says life created itself. the frog is an example of what that theory assumes happened. In fact, that blended frg is giving evolution theory a chance, because all the ingredients are there, unlike at the begining of time on this planet. "evolution theory says NOTHING about the origin of life

If you want to talk about abiogenesis instead of evolutions, that's fine. Abiogenesis, or life from non-life postulates that early life started with self-replicating chemicals, something we have observed, and through the natural tendency of certain chemicals to combine in specific ways, a compound similar to RNA was formed. It would not be necessary for DNA to form for a long time. Abiognesis would only result in the simplest of organisms, such as a prion.

That blended frog may or may not contain all the chemicals necessary to jump start abiogenesis. In any case, a frog is a collection of interacting simple cells, something that took evolution time, billions of replications and various types of selection to produce. Can your vial of blended frog give 3.5 billions years, ensure imperfect replication and selection to eliminate environmentally bad combinations?

220 posted on 10/03/2005 1:17:58 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp
"In any case, a frog is a collection of interacting simple cells, something that took evolution time, billions of replications and various types of selection to produce."

And the evidence of this is where? As I've pointed out, we have an extensive collection of fossils on this planet covering all periods. There should be evidence of these transitions everywhere. You are just repeating 150 year old theory.

224 posted on 10/03/2005 1:22:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: b_sharp
Actually, Zac is wrong about the blended frog. Blenders (Osterizer 10 speed) are used in cloning and genetic engineering labs.
1B. Homogenization of Fresh Tissues

a. Wash about 100 g of fresh tissues with tap water, and if necessary, cut into suitable pieces for homogenization with a kitchen blender (Osterizer 10 Speed Blender).

b. Homogenize 20 g of the tissue each time in 200 ml ice cold 1 x HB plus b-mercaptoethanol in the kitchen blender at speed 4 or "puree" for 20 - 40 seconds.

c. Filter the homogenate into an ice cold 250 ml centrifuge bottles as above.

d. Repeat steps b and c to complete the remaining tissues.

e. Add 5 ml 1 x HB plus 20% Triton X-l00 (the final concentration of Triton X-l00 is 0.5%) to each bottle (200 ml 1 x HB buffer), gently mix the contents, and incubate on ice for 20 minutes.

I believe, but haven't been able to find a link, that some plant cloning starts with separating tissue into small packets with a blender. How can you keep 'em back on grampa's farm after they've seen puree?

237 posted on 10/03/2005 1:47:39 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: b_sharp; Nathan Zachary
Abiogenesis, or life from non-life postulates that early life started with self-replicating chemicals, something we have observed,

Which ones?

290 posted on 10/03/2005 4:13:22 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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