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Returning to Dover [evolution trial in Dover, PA: week 2]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^
| 03 October 2005
| TERESA MCMINN
Posted on 10/03/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
After a weekend break from a court case involving intelligent design, the Dover school board officials will face business as usual. The board today will hold its first school board meeting since the trial began.
On Sunday, Dover school board member David Napierski said he sympathized with the time fellow members Shelia Harkins and Alan Bonsell have spent on the court case.
I really havent seen it erode them from their duties, he said. It definitely has taken a lot of their time . . . I think it is sapping some of the people, too.
The trial began Sept. 26 in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg. It resumes Wednesday.
Napierski hopes to attend at least one day per week of the trial.
Were seeing one side of the whole picture right now, he said. I think its going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.
He said dealing with the court case while running the school district is a double-edged sword.
I just hope and pray that our focus will stay on business, he said.
School district residents might have a difficult time resuming day-to-day life as it was before the trial began.
Lonnie Langioni left his position as a school board member in Dover in 2003. He said the issue has divided the community and he wants folks to again be friends.
Were just going to have to let it run its course, he said about the trial. Im just waiting for the day that this is all over and that the people of Dover can go back to talking to each other again.
He said he follows the case and reads newspapers and articles online.
Its crossed all kinds of lines, he said of the trial. Dover is a great community. We all need to respect each others viewpoints.
Former Dover school board member Barrie Callahan, a plaintiff in the court case, is ready to spend more time in court this week.
The case needs to proceed, she said Saturday. I know the issue. To see it through the process is truly fascinating.
Youre seeing the best of the best, she said about attorneys. It is an honor to be in their presence.
She said shes been following news of the trial posted online.
Its not about little tiny Dover, she said. This case really, really is important.
UPDATE
Trial schedule: The trial resumes Wednesday and Thursday in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg and is scheduled to continue Oct. 12, 14, 17 through 21, 24, 27 and Nov. 2 through 4.
At stake: Its the most significant court challenge to evolution since 1987, and its the first time a court has been asked to rule whether intelligent design can be taught in public schools. Experts say the cases outcome could influence how science is defined and taught in schools across the country. The lead defense lawyer said he wanted to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Coming this week: Among the scheduled witnesses: Dover school district science teacher Bertha Spahr and Jennifer Miller and plaintiffs Cynthia Sneath, Joel Leib and Deb Fenimore.
Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University, also is scheduled. Forrest co-authored Creationisms Trojan Horse, subtitled The Wedge of Intelligent Design.
TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: crevolist; dover; evolution
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To: Air Force Brat
Placemarker ping for later
101
posted on
10/03/2005 10:24:09 AM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Nathan Zachary
Just for one thing, you made the somewhat interesting claim that there is no physical fossil record. You were on the addressee list for this post.
Evidence that there seems to be a fossil record.
But in just a short week or so you've become the satirist's creationoid. Your posts speak for themselves.
Just between us, did Darwin Central put you up to this?
102
posted on
10/03/2005 10:27:32 AM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: Coyoteman
Eh?
I'll admit it - I'm a relative newbie. I never understood what "ping" means - can you explain?
Thx
To: PatrickHenry
If, as some Crevos say, "Genetic engineering happen to be a concrete example of intelligent design" then I'm not quite sure what the difference between these lunatics and Elijah Mohammed, the founder of the Nation of Islam is.
They both believe the same cultish thing.
104
posted on
10/03/2005 10:33:49 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
To: js1138
It wouldn't be the first time one of the oh-so-honest creationist types tried to pass off someone else's writings as his own. I guess they figure it can't be a sin because God didn't say "thou shalt not plagerize."
105
posted on
10/03/2005 10:34:26 AM PDT
by
Junior
(From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
To: Nathan Zachary
That is what you are saying. You can't counter the evidence, so you attack the person who presents it to get off the subject. Your side will have its day in court (literally). It will be amusing to see what they have to say when under oath.
106
posted on
10/03/2005 10:35:05 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Dimensio
Do Not Feed the Trolls
107
posted on
10/03/2005 10:40:59 AM PDT
by
Junior
(From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
To: VadeRetro
But in just a short week or so you've become the satirist's creationoid. Your posts speak for themselves.
Like Wile E. 'creationoid' Coyote chasing Road 'evo' Runner.
108
posted on
10/03/2005 10:41:47 AM PDT
by
ml1954
To: Air Force Brat
I'll admit it - I'm a relative newbie. I never understood what "ping" means - can you explain? I'm sure you will be given a good answer by someone else, but maybe this will add something.
There are at least three major kinds of forums. One is live chat, which FR is not.
Another kind that is rather common, allows posts to the thread, but not addressed to anyone in particular.
FR allows you to address your posts to a particular person or list of people. Posts addressed to you will show up when you click the "ping" link.
109
posted on
10/03/2005 10:42:26 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Air Force Brat
Sorry, I have to leave the computer for a while, so I left a placemarker so I can find where things were when I return.
And welcome!
110
posted on
10/03/2005 10:43:34 AM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Phoroneus
Face it boys/girls. Your "Theory" of evolution has and is consistently being proven to be a hoax. If it wasn't you all wouldn't be afraid of teaching children about INTELLIGENT (I know, a foreign word for some of you) DESIGN... drug crazed fiends, etc.
Helpful hint for the future: Try to wait at least one thread before you out yourself as completely irrational.
111
posted on
10/03/2005 10:49:11 AM PDT
by
aNYCguy
To: Air Force Brat
"Ping" comes from the sonar tech lingo used in The Hunt for Red October. It means "I want to draw your attention to this thread."
112
posted on
10/03/2005 10:51:30 AM PDT
by
Junior
(From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
To: Right Wing Professor
Should we teach 2+2=5 alongside 2+2=4 just so 2+2=4 looks good when we prove it's right?
Oh, welcome to FR. More like:
2 + a - b + c - d + e + f - g + h + i + j - k + l + m - n + o + p - q + r + s - t + u + v - w + x + y - z = 4
Never ASSUME.
113
posted on
10/03/2005 10:53:07 AM PDT
by
bondserv
(God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
To: Nathan Zachary
How does it feel to a defendant to the Cosmo-Evo Cult of the flying spaghetti monster tribunal? The greatest minds, the most powerful prognosticators, their all here, Evo-Cosmo Cosmo-Evo.
You are now before the demented crown prince of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
You will be shouted down like the defendant before the Nazi judge /sarc>
Wolf
114
posted on
10/03/2005 11:00:58 AM PDT
by
RunningWolf
(tag line limbo)
To: Phoroneus; Admin Moderator
Just joined FR on Sept 27 and you've already got a massive anti-science troll ping list? What was your last ID before you got banned?
115
posted on
10/03/2005 11:03:09 AM PDT
by
shuckmaster
(Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
To: Air Force Brat
116
posted on
10/03/2005 11:04:12 AM PDT
by
malakhi
To: Nathan Zachary
If you want to "observe" something, toss a frog in a blender You're a sick man.
117
posted on
10/03/2005 11:05:28 AM PDT
by
shuckmaster
(Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
To: Right Wing Professor
How's FR policy these days on calling one's opponents homosexuals?> That policy is so gay.
To: shuckmaster
He has assured me that the frog blender experiment is a fact, so I have to assume he's done it. Either that or his "source" has done it.
119
posted on
10/03/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Nathan Zachary; Right Wing Professor
Right Wing Professor; How's FR policy these days on calling one's opponents homosexuals?
Thats a distortion, but then how could the prof operate without distortion?
I request a change in policy. It might be more work for the Moderators, but it would shine a bright light on the situations here.
Look at both the accuser and the accuser.
Wolf
120
posted on
10/03/2005 11:12:21 AM PDT
by
RunningWolf
(tag line limbo)
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