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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: NCjim

Baton Rouge is apparently okay. She will be safe there. But I watched FOX coverage all day yesterday even with my company and while I was making peach pies. It is one monster storm. Miss and Alabama are not getting off easy either.


801 posted on 08/29/2005 5:49:59 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi CO,

My son had to leave school due to the storm and brought home a few of his teammates who could not get to their homes. One is from Canada. We are introducing him to Southern hospitality. As a matter of fact...he just had his first taste of barbecue!
802 posted on 08/29/2005 5:56:43 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: sarasota

I agree sarasota. The "right" rocks are being overturned and although it won't be pretty, I think that Beth will get her answer meanwhile taking down the "island of pigs"!! You know your pushing buttons when the the President (?) Nel Oduber is suing Jossy because he stated that he was corrupt. If it's not true then the guy has nothing to worry about. Why wouldn't this guy just Ignore the comments? Instead he's bringing even more negative attention to this disgusting place. and btw, at the top of this thread - look at the look on Deepak's face - does that smack of scared sh*tless to you? It does to me.


803 posted on 08/29/2005 5:57:54 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat

I am trying so hard to catch up but I wish I had not seen "Victor's Photos"....sick!

Thank you for keeping me on the ping list and thank you for all your dedication! I hope to finish catching up tomorrow but what is left of hurricane Katrina is supposed to pay Ohio a visit and greet us with storms and at alot of rain tomorrow and Wednesday. Please continue to keep me informed through the ping list. You are truly appreciated.


804 posted on 08/29/2005 5:58:33 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

NSNR - you stay safe okay!! I'll be praying for all you freepers in the path of this monstrous storm.


805 posted on 08/29/2005 6:00:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: shebacal

where did you see a pic of the torn green bluse shebacal???


806 posted on 08/29/2005 6:05:57 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Rusty Roberts
"I think there is a substantial chance that Natalee is still alive. I would not discount the possibility she is being held on the island; however, the biggest mistake that seems to have been made is not expanding the search beyond Aruba.".

Wow, is right. This is very well written. You did well on your search.

Possibilities have been mentioned that Natalee could have been taken to neighboring islands, Venezuela, Columbia or Arabia.

CC was very prescient in his comments on June 2nd: "There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications.

It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out.

Some of it will be hard to handle some of it will be expected ...

In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish us all strength."

The indications are certainly pointing at PVDS.

807 posted on 08/29/2005 6:16:54 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Rusty Roberts

That's a HUGE question. WHY can't the authorities get a search warrant for the Van der slut PROPERTY including the well. What better way for a person to disappear than to put her body where a search is "off limits". This bugs the heck out of me and has all along. I hope Beth starts screaming over this PUBLICALLY!!


808 posted on 08/29/2005 6:17:46 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: truthluva

Right on friend. What part of Kanada is he from? LOL


809 posted on 08/29/2005 6:19:46 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Toronto. Nice young man. The other two are from Pascagoula, Mississippi.


810 posted on 08/29/2005 6:23:40 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Canadian Outrage

I hadn't heard that Jossy is being sued. Seems corruption is rampant and we'll just have to wait and see who holds the power.


811 posted on 08/29/2005 6:25:51 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: shebacal

If what you say is true, why are these guys being charged with murder?


812 posted on 08/29/2005 6:26:46 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: truthluva

Ask him if he's ever been to Kelowna, in beautiful British Columbia? *grin* Toronto eeeeeeeekkk!!


813 posted on 08/29/2005 6:26:58 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Rusty Roberts

RR,

When I posted this here back in July we all discussed the possiblities. Unless someone cracks this will be tough to prove. The question will be 'Who are these guys the most afraid of...ALE and prison or the people that they may have sold her to?

If it's Venezsuelans she may not be alive now. If it's Saudis she will never been seen again but there's a chance she is still alive. JMHO


814 posted on 08/29/2005 6:27:20 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: sarasota

Yup, he's being sued. Also, Beth asked that we pray for Jossy because he had to be taken to the ER for chest pains. He's probably under a great deal of pressure for so openly backing Beth in this matter.


815 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:54 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Rusty Roberts

Still no opportunity to search PVDS property. Why not?


816 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:55 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Canadian Outrage

He said he's never been there but he knows where it is.


817 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:18 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Canadian Outrage

If I were Jossy, I'd be very careful about what I eat and from whom. You just never know.


818 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:51 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: truthluva

*grin* Poor boy!! I gotta go feed my husband. BB shortly.


819 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:40 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Vy meaty post, RR!

The only thing that is somewhat weak is the suggestion that she was sold into some form of sexual slavery.

I don't disagree with this, in fact I think this is what happened...but not into the convention slave trade business. I think she was too old and too high profile for that.

There is another shoe, however, that fits quite well and which is not far from this premise of sexual slavery.

It has been suggested that Nat was selected by a man or a group of men that had been watching her all week (it is too coincidental she disappeared on the last night before her departure...that being stressed as the best occasion for any range of abductions/rapes).

My theory here is only based on likelihood and common sense and intuition/gut. But, here is my latest suggestion (wrong though it will surely be...truth being stranger than fiction).

As regards motive(s), they are so plentiful on Aruba that they need no supportive argument. There are so many motives for foul play involving a young American woman that one need not worry about motive. But for the record, motives run the gamut from financial/commercial to sexual/hormonal to ritualistic. Nat might even have been abducted merely to make her the prize of a new gambling game (winner not only gets the pot, he also gets a drugged, but otherwise beautiful young American coed).

Bottom line (and about time, ain't it?).

Considering the players that comprise the front line (the pimps and friends) and considering the business of Aruba (dissipation by way of sensuality), I think the odds are that Nat was abducted by the pimps (but I don't think they raped her or killed her). I think they passes her to another person. Someone who was willing to pay for her.

The island has been searched alright but only exposed, outdoor and natural locales, not houses and other structures. Houses and basements and attics and warehouses, etc haven't been searched (to my knowledge). Why would any clever person (knowing that in Aruba, crime owns justice) hide the body outdoors.

As Paulus said "no body, no crime." And, that statement alone tells us she is most likely dead.

Anyway RR, the blame for this long post of mine I lay at your feet. If you hadn't stirred up this wee, but curious brain, I wouldn't be thinking and writing.

Anyway...over and out!

820 posted on 08/29/2005 6:32:25 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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