Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[justche]

Do you remember when it was said or who first referred to it?

[justche]

This is the site, where one of the guys was drunk, and another man they had met at C&C's was going to take him home anyway (passed out if I remember correctly) but the friend jumped in and said "no no". The local was very angry he couldn't take the passed out guy home. I remember reading that and thinking...does every one there think you can just do whatever no matter what the conscious level is?

[Dante3]

I've wondered about the same thing.

And C & C hired the guy who provided the fake alibi for Joran and the brothers that lead to the arrest of the two guards and damaged the investigation at a crucial point.

[RGVTx]

loca = Freddie

----In spanish loca would be the feminine of loco. Loca could be a reference to a female.

[truthluva]

[loca = Freddie

----In spanish loca would be the feminine of loco. Loca could be a reference to a female.]

In that case maybe fefi is Freddie??

[Dante3]

I have seen the sideways V sign given by MS-13 gang members and also in a picture of several lesbians. I've wondered about it also. I have yet to figure out what it means.

[RGVTx]

well this guy is one an of my two best amigonan this is my main brother then we fight for one another anytime in good and bad best on the adventures they with fefi beto & jojo kk loca hahahahahahah
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I read it as two people he is talking about with one being "fefi beto" and the other "jojo kk loca."

[Dark Skies]

Shango's colors.

What do you mean?

[Dark Skies]

Good catch! I know what you mean.

[Rushmore Rocks]

In Spanish, loca also means place..........as in LOCAtion.

[RGVTx]

This is papiamento:

logá: 1. place | 2. location, place, spot

loko: 1. crazy, insane, mad, nuts

I've found nothing in papiamento for 'loca' or 'fefi.'

[nuntukamen]

looks like i'll be shutting down for a bit with the hurricane zeroing in...or else we'll ride it out, i'll have to look at the path--thanks for the heads up since i have been just sitting on FR for the last 48 not paying attention to the world out there

[Dark Skies]

Do you remember somewhere a reference to "australopithicus" by Shango? Shango was, I think, saying that someone was not a simian but was Australopithicus (discovered in 1959 by Mary Leaky at the Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, Africa...I remember how excited I was to read about it at the time--nerdy, huh).

Also, did you know Shango is also the "Lord of the Dance."

[truthluva]

Looks like Jossy may be headed to court. The Prime Minister is less than happy about something Jossy printed in the Diario newspaper. Take a look at this:

"Nel, Natalee and September by Jossy M. Mansur DIARIO page 3 August 22 2005

Day before yesterday, the mother of the young girl who disappeared on 30th May in the hours of the night, made an obligated visit to Nelson Oduber, the most corrupt Prime Minister that Aruba has ever known. She did not visit him to discuss things of importance in the search for her daughter, just simply to ask why his inept Government is not more involved, is not more interested, is not helping with the things that are in his competence to contribute. In the beginning, the Government gave a hand, freeing the civil servants from their work for half a day, and from then on forward....'niente' (as the Italians say).

What Nel did do is create a Committee to discredit all his opononents on the internet, as if his donkey's voice can reach the sky! All their lies are discovered by the very same Americans all ready, without interventions (yet!) on behalf of his opposition. But, that is on its way and will start this week. The figure of his Narco Minister of Justice will be foremost in the answers that will be on the internet in the days that are coming. Finally the world will know how rotten this sinister element is, and how strong the embrace that Nel gave him and continues to give him. There is a movie with a very suggestive title: "Honor Among Thieves". Could it be applicable in this case?"



Seems the PM has a response...in court:

[Lawsuit Prime Minister against Diario

ARUBA – Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has taken legal proceedings against Jossy Mansur, Chief Editor of Diario and the morning paper itself. Oduber demands rectification of two comments about Oduber that Mansur had published in the Diario last week.

Oduber is of the opinion that the newspaper had dragged him too much through the mire. Mansur made statements that portrait Oduber as the most corrupt prime minister that Aruba ever had. The case comes up in court this coming Monday at 15:00.


amigoe.com ]

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

all this shango monkey stuff is nutso! But FWIW, the "new" monkey discovered in Bolivia is described as 'bright orange' with a golden "crown'. Is that fair for 'crimson', LOL? Or....is there a Bolivian in the mix of this case?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/02/60II/main671143.shtml

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

be safe.....whichever way you do it....

[Mjaye]

MS 13 gang members usually use the middle three fingers pointing down to make the "M". There are some who think the sideways sign you refer to is sexual in nature, indicating several points of the female anatomy.

[Yaelle]

I too was on the keep it simple bandwagon until recently. But too many things have been "almost said" and actually said about this being bigger than Natalee, with more involved than just the teen boys. They were led around by their... in this case.

Enjoying being the pimps. It's all a sick male bonding thing. Imagine the care for women if it is common that when a cop finds two people doing it on the beach, he requests and receives "his turn." What a misogynistic culture. And I am sure it attracts the seedier, slimier Dutch like Paulus. He was probably proud of his strong procurer kid.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Vn_survivor_67-68
Thank you and I just arrived in the safe-zone from hurricane Katrina.

Mama all purpose Alpo, too many fingers in the pie runs a good thing.
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NSNR-JC

[Dark Skies]

...all this shango monkey stuff is nutso!

Heh, heh...tell me about it. And I'm right up there with the nuttiest.

But, you'll be crying in your beer at C & C's when the Shango thread crowd blows this mystery apart by discovering that Shango is none other than Anita Van der Sloot and that she is in fact the QUEEN of SANTERIA for the entire world and has commanded the abduction of Nat by Jurine (Monkey Boy) and her hubby (known by his Yoruba name of Prince Sweatin' Buckets) because she needed a complete Voodoo blood transfusion from a nubile, blond American.

And hold on, we next will discover that Nat is still alive, but now has Anita's iron poor blood. Geritol to the rescue.

Or...of course, we may also be just chasing our tails?