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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: IIntense

This is a tongue in cheek (sort of) way of saying that it may have to move to paid vigilantes for justice to be done. I'm not so sure that the Holloway family could go that route but I'm not so sure that someone or a few someone's from the States or elsewhere who are as mad as all of us, wouldn't be prepared to do it. Mercenaries are really paid killers. In this case, I believe some people might like to do it free.

In any event, if there's no justice for Natalee on this earth, there will still be justice of that I'm positive.


3,581 posted on 11/03/2005 12:00:42 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: IIntense

Karen Janssen plain has NEVER intended to investigate OR Prosecute this case. She is in thick with the Van der Sloots and the Van der Straatens and the Van der everybody's on that Island in that farce of a Justice Department and joke of a police force.


3,582 posted on 11/03/2005 12:02:48 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: All

Just paid a visit to SM, first time in weeks and site shut down before I got past the last few pp of comments. (Too many people using it probably.) They are into an examination of Dr. Phil who evidently appeared on Jay Leno last night and said he had reason to believe NH may be alive. Their debate is over whether he has diarrhea of the mouth, he's getting ready for sweeps week (next week), he has been co-opted by the Aruban task force, he's setting things up for something but nobody can figure out what! Did anyone watch Leno last night? I never do.


3,583 posted on 11/03/2005 12:03:41 PM PST by penowa
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To: IIntense

Paulus Van der Sloot is most definitely NOT innocent. He counselled these people on how to avoid justice and it is pretty obvious that he was DIRECTLY involved in disposing of Natalee's body or making the arrangements to do so.

He was arrested for the sake of appearances only. This Justice system within which he worked, NEVER intended to prosecute him and frankly NOR his kid who is the worst of the bunch.


3,584 posted on 11/03/2005 12:05:34 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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URL: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_4207634,00.html
Mom of missing teen returns to Aruba
By MARGARET WEVER, Associated Press
November 3, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The mother of an Alabama teenager who vanished in Aruba more than five months ago has returned to the Dutch Caribbean island to press authorities to solve her daughter's disappearance.
Beth Holloway Twitty left Aruba in early September after a court ordered the release of three local youths who were the last people seen with her daughter, Natalee Holloway.

The honors student was last seen early on May 30 leaving a bar with Dutch national Joran van der Sloot and Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. They were arrested on June 9 but released after a court ruled there was not enough evidence to hold them.

Twitty, who arrived Tuesday, told reporters that she wanted to meet with prosecutors and police to discuss a taped interview in which Deepak Kalpoe allegedly says all three had sex with Holloway, who would have turned 19 last month.

Twitty met with Aruban tourism officials, who have expressed concern that negative publicity surrounding the case could hurt the island's tourism-dependent economy.

She declined to give details on the meeting when asked by reporters, saying only that she planned to leave the island today.

Myrna Jansen, managing director of the Aruba Tourism Authority, called the meeting informative.

Kalpoe's attorney and Aruban authorities did not immediately respond to phone calls seeking comment on the tape. Van der Sloot, in a television interview in September, said he had kissed Holloway, but neither he nor the brothers had sex with her.

Holloway's body has never been found, and authorities have announced no developments since the release of the Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot, who has moved to the Netherlands to attend college.

Twitty said police have told her that authorities are analyzing an audiotape of an interview of Kalpoe by an investigator hired by the "Dr. Phil" show.

On the tape, Kalpoe says Holloway "dressed like a slut," and that he, his brother and van der Sloot had sex with the U.S. teen. Twitty said police told her that investigators are trying to make sure the tape has not been altered.

Copyright 2005, KnoxNews. All Rights Reserved.


3,585 posted on 11/03/2005 12:06:00 PM PST by Malichi (!)
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To: IIntense

LOL - I should have read one further.


3,586 posted on 11/03/2005 12:06:23 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: RGVTx

3,587 posted on 11/03/2005 12:07:11 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Malichi

Sorry! I somehow missed your post on Dr. Phil on Leno. Does anybody have any idea what is going on with him or what this means? SM thinks he blindsided the H/T's.


3,588 posted on 11/03/2005 12:09:01 PM PST by penowa
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Great posts NSNR. As always your so right. If there is justice here it will be vigilante style as far as I can see. And I also think it would be a very good idea to STOP all Dutch and Aruban immigration and prevent 100% of Americans from every touching down on Aruban soil again.

For one thing, it's not an exaggeration to state: YOU ARE NOT SAFE IN ARUBA!! I know it won't happen but I'd love to see the Dutch Ambassador to the US kicked out!!


3,589 posted on 11/03/2005 12:10:46 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

ROTFLMAO!! "Dumbpig is leting his aruban jaybird mouth overload his aruban hummingbird ass"!! hehehehehe - great expression.


3,590 posted on 11/03/2005 12:12:49 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

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3,591 posted on 11/03/2005 12:16:38 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I agree that the continued INTENSE pressure will have some results. They may be any of those you just stated. As to the eyes, sometimes, evil can be seen or at least perceived. You know, "The eyes are the windows of the soul". That puts Paulus Van der Sloot in a very bad spot. ANYBODY that cannot hold eye contact, particularly in the presence of a Christian such as Beth or Dave, shows that the devil(s) in them cant STAND the light!!!


3,592 posted on 11/03/2005 12:17:08 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: RGVTx

No matter who said what, we're all on the same page LOL!!


3,593 posted on 11/03/2005 12:20:27 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: Malichi

I don't know if I buy Dr. Phil's story. Blood in Deepaks car, on the seat and on the ceiling - that suggests something pretty violent to me. Then the boys pointing fingers and accusing each other of killing her. Beth herself stating that "We buried Natalee on June 10th". The continual searches for her remains at great cost to the family. Sounds strange to me. Out of the group there I could see them grabbing other girls besides Natalee for the sex slave trade. I'll bet she's dead and has been since May 31st.


3,594 posted on 11/03/2005 12:25:18 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: penowa

I never watch Leno either. And with Dr. Phil one can never be quite sure. He does like to grab the limelight. I have no clue why he would make a statement like that.


3,595 posted on 11/03/2005 12:31:37 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I can't figure it out and like I said the site just crapped out like it does sometimes before I could see what conclusions the Monkeys reached who follow every move every day.

"She declined to give details on the meeting when asked by reporters, saying only that she planned to leave the island today."

That was a quick trip, but I guess if everyone is avoiding meeting with Beth, there isn't much use staying there and spending $ with people who don't like you. I will be glad when she leaves because I really do worry about her safety when she is there. I don't think they would be foolish enough to harm her, but I don't trust them enough to think she might not have an "accident."

3,596 posted on 11/03/2005 12:48:49 PM PST by penowa
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To: IIntense
Natalee Holloway's family have been forced to ride a roller coaster of hope followed by disappointment.

That's so right; the anguish and suffering endured by the families must be excruciating. They are very strong to have stood up to it, and be able to continue to fight for the truth about Natalee's disappearance.

3,597 posted on 11/03/2005 12:48:57 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Note if the pressure is kept on all of them, they will crack. Either by cardiac arrest, nervous breakdown, suicide, homicide or a confession.

Urine and the K-2s, if put back in jail where they belong, will probably start singing this time, because they can see now just how determined the family is to NEVER let them off the hook.

3,598 posted on 11/03/2005 12:59:00 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: penowa

Beth is leaving today??????? Where did you hear that penowa? I wonder if she got any answer from the Minister of Justice at all.


3,599 posted on 11/03/2005 1:04:00 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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'The Abrams Report' for Nov. 2nd
Read the transcript to the Wednesday show
Updated: 10:31 a.m. ET Nov. 3, 2005

Guests: Dave Holloway, Chris Lejuez, Clint Van Zandt, Tim Miller, Ron Kuby, Jan Ting, Deborah Norville, Steven Clark

DAN ABRAMS, HOST: Coming up, breaking news out of Aruba. Natalee Holloway‘s divorced parents have come together to demand that most of the senior officials working on the case be replaced.
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ABRAMS (voice-over): In a stinging six-page letter, they accused the Aruban authorities of asking for money, ignoring leads, and bungling the investigation. They want a whole new team. This a day after the deputy police chief had some tough words on this program for Natalee‘s mother. Natalee‘s father, Dave, is with us.

ABRAMS: Hi everyone. First up on the docket tonight, there is a war of words unraveling in Aruba. Natalee Holloway‘s divorced parents who up to now have been proceeding separately, sign a letter. Here it is. You see Dave Holloway, Robin Holloway, Beth Twitty, Jug Twitty, all signing this letter in agreement with what is in this six-page document. They are demanding that Aruba‘s attorney general pull the team investigating Natalee‘s disappearance.

Quote—“It has become increasingly difficult to hold our tongues. It is our contention that it is in the best interest of everyone concerned to instigate a fresh start in this case. We respectfully request that Dennis Jacobs, Karin Janssen, and Gerold Dompig be removed from the case.”

Snip...
TIM MILLER, EQUUSEARCH DIRECTOR: ... And you know I got a phone call this morning, while I was drinking my coffee. I mean the Natalee case has just been eating at us, and it was Gerold Dompig. And he really apologized to me for the lack of communication last week, while we were there, and Gerold‘s words to me was, Tim, you know what? I really don‘t think that Natalee‘s alive.

And we do have to find her. He said I‘m looking forward to you coming back to the island. I think Gerold has been overwhelmed. He‘s been hit in every single direction, and you know what? Right now what I would like to do is go ahead and mobilize again, go on back over there. I think we‘re going to get 100 percent cooperation... from Gerold right now...

ABRAMS: ... after this letter, Tim. I mean you can understand why after this letter, there could be some new problems.

MILLER: Well you know what? I think they can deal with those problems. I‘d kind of like to ask Dave and Beth—you know what? It‘s been almost five months now, let‘s step back for a couple of weeks and kind of take some deep breaths and stuff and kind of everybody hold their tongue and allow us to go back over there. I truly, from the bottom of my heart, think that we‘re going to get the equipment over there we need. We‘re going to be able to search the areas that they want searched. And Gerold and I talked this morning, if she is out there, even with the sophisticated equipment...

ABRAMS: Yes.

MILLER: ... we‘re taking, chances are slim, but you know what? Let‘s work together and do everything we can possibly do and I‘m looking forward to going back over there. And the problems with Gerold and me right now, I think that they‘re repaired and I want to focus...on locating Natalee.

To continue reading:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9910578/
3,600 posted on 11/03/2005 1:12:15 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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