Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[IIntense]

Guess what? I like Ted. He strikes me as a sincere, passionate guy with a clear view of the facts. I do wish he would take some lessons in proper English, though.

"Stuck on stupid". What better way to say it. If Ted coined that phrase, kudos to him.

[RGVTx]

Like I said, Ted's 'stuck on stupid' was the most memorable thing I've ever heard him say. I really don't mind his butchering of the english language. He's real, not a phony.
But I did want to slap him and duct tape his mouth when he was excusing ALE as simply being embarrassed.

[IIntense]

"This letter cannot be ignored by Aruban and Dutch government".

I'm not so sure about that. Natalee Holloway's family have been forced to ride a roller coaster of hope followed by disappointment. I, for one, have ended my roller coaster ride. The Arubans responsible to investigate have failed completely. At first I blamed it on their ineptness. Now I believe their "failure" is deliberate.

I'm sensing a bad smell that permeates their police and judicial systems. If a US boycott will bring them to their knees, I'm 100% behind it!

[IIntense]

Mercenaries. Help me out here. What role do you see them taking in this case? Paid tough guys to "move the investigation along"? Putting the screws to Aruba's corrupt system? I'm serious. Enlighten me.

[IIntense]

I watched Greta tonight, heard what you posted.

No follow-up questions to Joran after he accused Deepak? Csn that be true? Oh, would I like to hear a tape of THAT interrogation!

And the chief prosecutor, Karen______ won't make time to meet with Beth Twitty? One cold-hearted female we have here! More likely she's wants to hold on to her prestigious job.

[IIntense]

What you say makes sense to me. These three culprits are, in my mind, immature kids. It seems likely that an adult took the reins when it came to hiding a body. Paulos Van Der Sloot is an innocent bystander, IMO>

[IIntense]

Correction to my post 3566. Paulos van der Sloot is NOT an innocent bystander, IMO. Sorry for the obvious error.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Good Morning Penowa,
The sad reality is that the crime cartel's abundant pecuniary profits are figured in with the ALE's retirement program.

ALE bought and paid for, with no sense of pride or shame.

The SD should implement a policy to stop all arubans&dutch citizens from entering America. This would also include, no Americans vacationing in aruba.

Poor Beth is wasting her time in dealing with the ALE POS misfits.

What we need is a Gray Light Ops, on the four perps.

Bolder & Older,
NSNR-WNNS

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Morning Malichi,
Dumbpig is letting his aruban jaybird mouth overload his aruban hummingbird ass.

Let's all query how this scenario would have played out in America, if the roles had been reversed?

The USA Feds&SD&local yokels(LEA(S) would have have been jumping through their asses in solving this crime. This homicide would have been solved in T T Time.

I believe jacksassason and al baby would have jumped on this badboy, to get some face time.

Oh Hell, maybe it's time to send in the,"Real Boys In The Hood" Special Reaction Team assets.

Don't shoot me, I am only the piano player,
NSNR-WNNS

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Morning Shebacal,
Thank you for posting those four SSMFs'(Sad Sack Mother Friggers') ugly mugs' to educate all on the demonic possession of arubans/dutch POS.

Actually, I have seen better looking prides'(faces) on the back of iodine bottles.

Too busy zigging, when I should have been zagging,
NSNR-WNNS

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Morning CO,
Avds would look good cruising in an OldsMoSub with dead kennedy. All enroute to chappaquidick, with the other four perps locked in the trunk.

Note if the pressure is kept on all of them, they will crack. Either by cardiac arrest, nervous breakdown, suicide, homicide or a confession.

Suddenly I realized, I'm a hologram,
NSNR-WNNS

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Hey CO,
Those darting eyes signs of deception, immediate flight and guilt.

Kinesis reveals so much,like the sixth "from within" inner sense.

Evil can often not be seen, but it can be felt or sensed.

Paranormal Police On Patrol,
NSNR-WNA(Who Needs Aruba?)

[truthluva]

mark

[justche]

And the chief prosecutor, Karen______ won't make time to meet with Beth Twitty? One cold-hearted female we have here! More likely she's wants to hold on to her prestigious job.


I wonder if there's not more to it. I don't know if it's about her job - or self protection.

Here's my view at this point - I think there are a few people on the island with VERY dirty hands that have been paid a lot of money to look the other way, and work innocuously with the 'bad guy' be they drug runners, slave traders, whatever. Every now and then someone does get popped. I think at the bottom of this is not only being afraid of being caught for all these past sins (which even the prosecutor turned her head from) but the very real threat of "something worse happening to you" (or a loved one). At some point, someone is going to have to break free and just spit it out - but so far the punishment is not worse than the punishment the other side might give out. So it's a stalemate. Meanwhile, Beth et al are going to start letting little things leak out that show all the bad stuff - but they can't play every single card they have or they'll never get Natalee's remains back.

So there's my two cents, but you get what you pay for :)

(I have to admit, there's still this faint hope that no body no crime, and 'not finding her remains' means she's been shipped off the island - and no, I'm not interested in any bridges - I just still have it in the back of my mind.)

[penowa]

I'm not the person talking about "mercenaries." Someone mixed me up with Canadian Outrage and attributed her quote to me. Please direct your question to her. Thanks.

[RGVTx]

I'm laughing because this has turned into a 'whose on first' routine. Let me try to map this out for all of us.

1)I quoted Nuntukamen about mercenaries

2)Malichi mistook my quote of Nuntukamen as a Dompig quote.

3)I attempted to explain the mix up and I screwed up by attributing the quote to Penowa instead of Nuntukamen.

Are we all on the same page now?

[Malichi]

Jack Rabbit, Arlene left her phone number for you but I can't find it now. Sorry.

[Malichi]

Dr. Phil: 'Natalee Holloway is alive'

(JND) - Is Natalee Holloway alive?

Dr. Phil was hesitant to reveal what he termed, "too much information" Wednesday night. However, the doctor's light-hearted appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno turned serious when discussing the issue of the missing Alabama teenager.

"Without giving up too much information... we believe Natalee Holloway is alive.'

Dr. Phil pointing to what he termed the "sex slave market" as the main point of focus in the ongoing investigation.

Holloway Bio:
Holloway and 124 fellow graduates of Mountain Brook High School was visiting Aruba on an unofficial senior class graduation trip. She was last seen leaving Carlos’n Charlie’s, a popular tourist-oriented bar and grill, early in the morning with Dutch-born Joran van der Sloot, the then seventeen year old son of an ex-judicial official trainee, and two companions, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, Surinamese-born brothers of East Indian origin, in Deepak's car.

Natalee Holloway did not appear for her return flight the next morning, nor did she appear in any security camera footage of the hotel lobby in the course of the night. Her passport, packed bags, and cellular phone were found in her hotel room. Searches of the island began immediately, but have been fruitless as of 2005.

Holloway was, according to her parents, to have started her undergraduate pre-med studies on a full scholarship at the University of Alabama in August 2005



http://www.juiceenewsdaily.com/1105/news/holloway.html?1130994790609

[Malichi]

The Search For Natalee Holloway: A Producer's Diary - Day 1


Natalee Holloway disappeared while on vacation in ArubaThis is the first in a series journal entries written by AMW correspondent Rick Segall as he searched in Aruba with Dave Holloway, Natalee Holloway's father, and the EquuSearch team.

10/25/05

I'm in Aruba and for days, I've been talking with Tim Miller, the director of EquuSearch - a Texas-based search and recovery team. Hopefully today, Tim will introduce me to Dave Holloway, Natalee Holloway's father.

I can't even fathom what Dave is going through -- returning to Aruba five months after his daughter was last seen alive, still holding onto the hope of finding her. Dave came back to the island with the EquuSearch team, an amazing group of volunteers and experts who travel the world to locate missing persons, and this time they're hoping to find some answers.

It has been rumored on the island that Natalee was at a series of shacks known as "the fishing huts" the night of her disapperance. It's an area on the beach close to the Holiday Inn, where she was staying, and now, locals say that Natalee was there with the three boys who have been the focus of the investigation.

Yesterday, Dave went went back to the fishing huts to look around for himself. He wanted to see things first hand, and I still can't wrap my head around what he discovered.


Dave said that seeing the cross unraveled the thread of hope
Memorial To Natalee

Dave Holloway at the makeshift memorial for his daughter, NataleeAs Dave walked down the beach, he happened upon a small wooden cross. When he looked closer, Dave noticed a rosary and the initials "N.H." carved in the corner. I wouldn't have wanted to be in Dave's shoes for anything in the world at that moment.

Today, the crew and I went back with Dave Holloway to the makeshift memorial. It was a touching dose of reality - Natalee is probably never coming back. Dave said that seeing the cross unraveled the thread of hope - the thread of hope that the Holloway family has been holding on to, the thread of hope that Natalee may still be alive.

What's The Reason?

Knowing what we know about that area, that a gardener had spotted the boys in the wee hours of the morning right near that spot, knowing that the boys may have taken Natalee to those fishing huts, knowing that a large steel fishing cage and a knife were stolen from those fishing huts and knowing that tips have come into Aruban police that a boat left from those spots -- all of those things combined, that cross means something to the investigation, something yet to be discovered. The memorial is not close to any of the places where people have gathered to memorialize Natalee, like the church and the lighthouse. So why there?


Mere Coincidences?

AMW correspondent, Rick Segall, accompanied Dave Holloway to the makeshift cross As hard as I try, I can't imagine that the makeshift memorial is just a random coincidence. Yes, there is widespread media attention on the fishing huts a few hundred yards away. But why would someone put the cross there unless they knew the significance of this area? It certainly adds credibility to the tips indicating that something sinister happened from that very spot.

The cross has become a sort of headstone by default for Dave. It's the closest thing that the Holloways have to a grave. The emotion while we were there was just overwhelming, and Dave was doing his best to hold it together. That cross was obviously put there by someone that knows something or maybe someone with a guilty conscience.

But it now becomes obvious why Deputy Police Chief Dompig wants the EquuSearch team to search the waters off this stretch of beach. That search is now underway. I will join it tomorrow in the hopes that the ocean floor holds some answers and some closure.



http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=827

[Malichi]

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