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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/09/some-arubans-are-treated-less-nicely.html

Wednesday, September 28, 2005
Some Arubans are treated less nicely when visiting America
DIARIO Aruba
9/28/2005

ORANJESTAD (AAN): The image Aruba is acquiring with some Americans is none too pretty. Now that Beth Twitty is suggesting that Americans not travel to Aruba or any other Dutch territories, on almost all channels, as well as on the popular Dr. Phil Show and soon on the hugely popular Oprah Winfrey Show, the situation is worsening.

There are millions of Americans following the case of the Alabama student who went missing in Aruba. The general opinion is that the government of Aruba hasn’t done anything to find Natalee, nor to maintain the three young suspects detained.

They think that in Aruba, corruption is the order of the day and that because Joran’s father has the title of judge, he could have easily caused his son to regain his freedom.
Now what? It seems that many Americans will (take out their anger?) on any Aruban that goes to their country.

Evil Eye on Arubans

DIARIO received last week, various reports of Arubans visiting America, under the ‘evil eye’ they have gained from Americans. This has even happened to Arubans who have lived a long time in America.

A known local citizen has indicated that he telephoned the US to make a reservation in an American hotel. The female operator was speaking very nicely and was cheery until the time when she asked “where are you calling from”

When the citizen replied “From Aruba”, at once the tone of the conversation changed drastically.

Another case: There have been a few local merchants who have also reported that they have received really bad treatment when traveling abroad for conventions.
When walking in the Convention Center with a badge on their shirt, with the word Aruba appearing in large. Americans see the name “Aruba” and they flee and at once (refuse?) to speak with the Aruban participants.

In the eyes of Americans, Aruba is condemned for freeing the youngsters, and for having no word as to what happened to Natalee Holloway.

Besides that, DIARIO has received information that an American cab drivers speak (rudely?) if they know you are from Aruba. This is what happened to some people who visited Las Vegas.

An Aruban was on a street corner when this happened, and the only thing he could do was keep his mouth shut and walk away.
But not all Arubans will keep their mouths shut! DIARIO has learned that some got into a discussion and defended the island, as he should.

Aruban Credit Card

What else is happening to Arubans in America? DIARIO has received confirmation that an Aruban was in a department store looking for assistance from a salesperson, said (something?) and the sales person found out that the person was from Aruba. At this point, the saleslady did not want to continue assisting the Aruban customer.

The situation of Arubans residing in America is becoming tiring, they have found ‘harassment’ to the point where they’d rather not identify themselves as Arubans.

However, even if you don’t identify yourself as Aruban, you may be identified as such when going to complete a purchase at a cashier. A lady tells DIARIO that when she took out her credit card from Aruba Bank to pay for a purchase at Macy’s in Atlanta, the cashier saw the word ‘Aruba’ and she started to have a word with the client she was serving.

The ‘verbal attack’ are launched against the Arubians who travel to America, and now some local people are asking starting to answer “We are from Curaçao”, when asked where they’re from.

A local journalist also found a ‘negative lecture’ when he arrived to Miami and boarded a car rental bus and started conversing with the chauffeur. The chauffeur was Cuban and didn’t have a nice word for Aruba.

Is the boycott against Aruba working or not? Commerces in Aruba are complaining about a slowdown in the month of September in general. Some days you even didn’t see one tourist walking in the mall or Main Street (Caya Principal).
Some hotels are half full, and cabdrivers are complaining about ‘off-season’.

Although local authorities keep saying that demand for travel to Aruba is high, one must take a logical look at this situation. DIARIO also received confirmation that in the beginning of September, there was one US – Aruba flight that only had a dozen tourists on board. They each took up 3-seat rows to lay down and sleep.

“The worst is yet to come”, a citizen explained to DIARIO. Aruba has demonstrated to the American people that the investigation of Natalee’s case (continues?)

In case this does not happen, some hotel workers will have to be laid off for lack of tourists. We hope that October will be better than this month.

[translated by Getagrip]

posted by Getagrip at 1:43 AM


2,301 posted on 10/02/2005 9:59:52 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Let them eat sand.


2,302 posted on 10/02/2005 10:05:34 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/09/chamber-of-commerce-kvk-want.html
Aruba Getagrip
A compilation of translated Aruban media articles regarding the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Tuesday, September 27, 2005
Chamber of Commerce (KvK) want an investigation to force Justice Department
Amigoe
9/27/2005

Oranjestad – The Chamber of Commerce (KvK) wants an independent investigation to a possible political pressure to the police and the DA. The Chamber of Commerce wants this investigation after the statements of former commissioner Jan van der Straten, who can be considered as a well informed person of Justical business at high level.

The Chamber of Commerce is afraid that the political pressure to the Justice Department will decrease the investments on Aruba. “ Aruba needs to be a legal justice system where everyone has the right to a equal and fair treatment. Investors should work in a stable and good climate. The Chamber of Commerce (KvK) is begging the authorities to give this investigation high priority

[translated by EdwinW]
posted by Getagrip at 4:13 PM


2,303 posted on 10/02/2005 10:08:33 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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Aruba Getagrip

A compilation of translated Aruban media articles regarding the Natalee Holloway investigation.
Friday, September 30, 2005


Philanthropist and powerful lawyer from America start a national campaign against Aruba
DIARIO Aruba - 9/30/2005

ORANJESTAD (AAN): The MSNBC show Rita Crosby Live which ran Wednesday spoke with a powerful lawyer and a Philadelphia philanthropist who are going to help to launch a national campaign in America in efforts to boycott Aruba.

Natalee Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty, was in Philadelphia Wednesday to meet with a renowned philanthropist from that city, Joe Mammana. She also met with a lawyer because she doesn’t want to leave any stone unturned.

From here, Natalee’s family wants to explore any any option they have available to find their daughter. Now, with the help of a powerful lawyer, they will start that process.

The lawyers are Marty Trichon and Elliott Curson. One is a former prosecutor, who is a very ‘hard core’ person and will look at the case from all angles. He works in the style of reason first, and emotion later. What option are they looking for? Joe Mammana says that personally, he will go against Aruba in all possible forms. He found that people in Aruba haven’t been honest and haven’t been just. Personally, Joe wants to boycott Aruba and will start a national boycott of the island.

He wants for Joran van der Sloot to realize, that the time has come to to wipe that smile off his face and he plans to smack it off. They will not stop until the time that they know where Natalee Holloway is and until the time Beth Twitty can put her head on her pillow at night and sleep peacefully.

Beth Twitty reacted to what Joran declared to the “A Current Affair” crew recently. She believes that what Joran, Deepak and Satish did with Natalee is “gang rape”, which is a crime.

With a national boycott, they hope to pressure the authorities in Aruba and start to accuse the youngsters here of more crimes [?] Beth Twitty repeated, that she has asked for millions of people to support her to please not travel to Aruba nor any other Dutch territories until Natalee is returned to her. She is convinced that Aruba has the ability for this to happen!

[translated by Getagrip] posted by Getagrip at 11:22 PM

2,304 posted on 10/02/2005 10:28:04 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal
...independent investigation to a possible political pressure to the police and the DA. The Chamber of Commerce wants this investigation after the statements of former commissioner Jan van der Straten, who can be considered as a well informed person of Justical business at high level.

So what does this mean?

That ex-commissioner Jan Van Der Straten still has enormous political clout in Aruba??

Does it mean that he wants the Natalee Holloway case investigated (investigate his own actions?) or that he wants the parents of Natalee to be investigated??

2,305 posted on 10/02/2005 10:36:34 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/
Aruba Getagrip

A compilation of translated Aruban media articles regarding the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Monday, September 19, 2005
Ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam in his new book KPA-Quo Vadis 2,3:

To exculpate the son of Paul vd Sloot, the commissioner and fiscal falsely arrested two ex security guards.
Police command nominations named as the reason of the mistake.
Bon Dia Aruba - 9/19/2005

ORANJESTAD – The police corps committed a blunder in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. According to ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam, who dedicates attention to the case here and also in his upcoming publication.

According to Zaandam, the nominations - of among others Commissioners Bernardina, Dompig, Hassel and Richardson, along with 34 high-rank 1st class inspectors - which are against the law and hierarchy of the KPA, have serious consequences for the quality and integrity of work in KPA.

Accoding to Zaandam, none of the high-ranked commissioners has the qualifications nor experience to conduct a judicial investigation.

Police at the top of political list

According to Zaandam, Commissioner Dompig is under the instruction of Minister Rudy Croes, of MEP.
He also states that 20 other policemen were ranked high on a political list. Five others (…) among them Commissioner Hassell, according to Zaandam.

He also claims this is how Commissioner vd Straten was appointed to this case. However, according to Zaadam, this should not be work for a commissioner.

Blunder
Zaadam continues talking about the blunder under which the 3 youngster were questioned, which should have been a simple case, but one that resulted in KPA’s biggest blunder, due to the deceiptfulness of JvdS, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, they remained free another 12 days.

False Arrest
Zaandam talks about his book two days after 5/29, the body of Natalee H. may have been found and Cvp looked the other way to do a favour for Paul vd Sloot (ex boss of chief of Cabinet PG J. Zwinkels). To exculpate the son of Paul, the zg CvP and fiscal chief prosecutor Karen Jansen made the false arrest of two ex-security guards, Jones and John , called this a ‘tactical maneuver’ , and denied them their freedom for another 10 days.

This, continues Zaadam in his book, is the issue here. However, he has much more to tell regarding the case of Natalee Holloway.

[translated by Getagrip]
posted by Getagrip at 12:18 PM


2,306 posted on 10/02/2005 10:48:02 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal
To exculpate the son of Paul vd Sloot, the commissioner and fiscal falsely arrested two ex security guards.

Accoding to Zaandam, none of the high-ranked commissioners has the qualifications nor experience to conduct a judicial investigation.

He also claims this is how Commissioner vd Straten was appointed to this case. However, according to Zaadam, this should not be work for a commissioner.

...the body of Natalee H. may have been found and Cvp looked the other way to do a favour for Paul vd Sloot (ex boss of chief of Cabinet PG J. Zwinkels).

If Ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam has got his facts straight, this is how the "perfect murder" was concealed. It "took a village" to cover up this crime.

2,307 posted on 10/02/2005 10:57:49 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: MAWG
Let them eat sand.

I agree.

Is the boycott against Aruba working or not? Commerces in Aruba are complaining about a slowdown in the month of September in general. Some days you even didn’t see one tourist walking in the mall or Main Street (Caya Principal).

Some hotels are half full, and cabdrivers are complaining about ‘off-season’.

Although local authorities keep saying that demand for travel to Aruba is high, one must take a logical look at this situation. DIARIO also received confirmation that in the beginning of September, there was one US – Aruba flight that only had a dozen tourists on board. They each took up 3-seat rows to lay down and sleep.

“The worst is yet to come”, a citizen explained to DIARIO. Aruba has demonstrated to the American people that the investigation of Natalee’s case (continues?)

What's that word in the parentheses, could it possibly mean "was totally botched"?

2,308 posted on 10/02/2005 11:08:07 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

I don't like oprah and I dont watch her show BUT, if Beth comes on her show with the guy from Philly and they do a show like the one she did with Dr. Phil, Aruba IS TOAST!! IT IS OVER!


2,309 posted on 10/02/2005 11:21:14 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MAWG
Great idea, to e-mail Oprah and ask her to have Beth Twitty and Joe Mammana on her show:

Oprah's e-mail page

2,310 posted on 10/02/2005 11:56:40 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Well well well, Mr. Rudy Croes just GAVE IT AWAY!!


2,311 posted on 10/02/2005 12:10:27 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Isn't that the truth NSNR? Oh how I wish the State Department HAD interested themselves in what happened to one of her daughters. Money sent to these CORRUPT CESSPOOLS is just ANOTHER waste!! I'm in the mood for REVOLT. A north American REVOLT! Same chit in this country.


2,312 posted on 10/02/2005 12:15:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: NCjim

UGH!! Jim.


2,313 posted on 10/02/2005 12:18:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: shebacal

I hope this is true. Aruba deserves NO tourist dollars - NONE!! I'd like them to get so bad that they would beg BETH TWITTY AND JOE MAMMANA to come to Aruba. ANYTHING to bring in $$!!


2,314 posted on 10/02/2005 12:24:56 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: MAWG

AMEN Mawg. They can pound it too!! LOL


2,315 posted on 10/02/2005 12:25:40 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Yes, he certainly displays a hostile attitude towards Beth.

Croes (Rudy Croes the Minister of Justice) does not consider taking measures against Twitty yet, but does not rule out the possibility to shut her up in the future.

We did everything possible to find her daughter”, said Croes.

Oh, give me a break, Croes - you let the 3 perps go for 10 days, plenty of time to destroy evidence.

2,316 posted on 10/02/2005 12:31:17 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Why is this guy only coming forward with this information NOW?


2,317 posted on 10/02/2005 12:33:34 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Aruba deserves NO tourist dollars - NONE!!

The EVIL EYE FOR ARUBA until Urine gives up the secret of WHERE IS NATALEE.

2,318 posted on 10/02/2005 12:36:14 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Unfortunately, Urine is a Dutch Scott Peterson. ABSOLUTE Sociopath. NO feelings for anybody but himself. He will have to be GIVEN up!!


2,319 posted on 10/02/2005 12:46:18 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: shebacal

LOL I'll BRB - I need to get dressed. LOL oh and make my bed. I'm being laaaaaaaaaazzy today. But then I worked all week but Wed. on which I made homemade salsa all day long. The rest of the work week was very hectic too.


2,320 posted on 10/02/2005 12:48:06 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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