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America’s Descent Into the Third World
Chronicles Magazine ^ | Monday, July 25, 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole

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To: pfony1; All

It is funny.. The same people on this thread yell at Bush for increasing the size of the Government, yet they want the Government to "protect" our jobs.. That is calling for big Government if you ask me.. Can't have it both ways..


401 posted on 07/27/2005 8:26:29 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Just brilliant...

Thanks.


402 posted on 07/27/2005 8:26:35 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: KevinDavis

Despite the cuddly television ads and public relations, businesses by their very nature, are amoral (not to be confused with immoral). That's not to say that there are not good, nice decent people working in these businesses, but they exist for no other reason than to make money. If you want them to act in a moral fashion, then you pass a law that enforces behavior conforming to that slice of morality.


403 posted on 07/27/2005 8:38:12 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: KevinDavis
It is funny.. The same people on this thread yell at Bush for increasing the size of the Government, yet they want the Government to "protect" our jobs.. That is calling for big Government if you ask me.. Can't have it both ways..

You can if you restore the original arrangement as it was from the beginning of USA. The magic word is tariffs - sales tax on imports.

404 posted on 07/27/2005 8:38:14 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Dat Mon

So basically you want to control what jobs there are and how much people get paid and who can do them. Sounds like communism to me!


405 posted on 07/27/2005 8:41:10 PM PDT by Dat
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To: A. Pole
"How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?"

Get a government job. Can't beat the pay, job security, and those benefits and pensions the rest of us only dream of.

406 posted on 07/27/2005 8:41:33 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: durasell; All

Business exist for one purpose and that is to provide a service... Business is not nor it should be a some kind of social agency...


407 posted on 07/27/2005 8:45:14 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis

Uh, not really. If you took your average business guy and said, "Hey, Mr. Business guy. Here's my idea, we don't provide any service or product, have no advertising budget, but people will give us money...what do you say, are you in?" He'd jump at the chance.

Businesses exist to make money. To do this they fill a niche by providing a service or product. Hopefully that service or product is of some social value, but it's not a requirement for a successful business.


408 posted on 07/27/2005 8:49:08 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

The government says YES.

From the report Mr. Roperts misrepresented:

Professional and Business Services:
Architectural and Engineering Services: 1,334,300
employees, UP 76,000 from a year ago


409 posted on 07/27/2005 8:49:12 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: durasell; All

My mistake.. However, they need to make a profit in order to stay around.. If they it goes under...


410 posted on 07/27/2005 8:52:32 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: pfony1

Yes, many of those jobs from the building boom. A huge percentage of our economy now relies on keeping the housing boom going. Unfortunately this is -- ending.


411 posted on 07/27/2005 8:53:39 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: uncbob
Whoo Hoo! Amen to your post!

From a former waitress who is offended by this entire piece! :-)
412 posted on 07/27/2005 8:55:48 PM PDT by ladyinred (Here come the judges!)
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To: KevinDavis

Capitalism is the easiest thing in the world. I am firmly convinced that it represents and nourishes some vital aspect of human nature.

The problem is, controlling it. Too much freedom in the market and we all fall apart too quickly. Too many restrictions and the same thing happens. That's the problem...


413 posted on 07/27/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Yes, many of those jobs from the building boom. A huge percentage of our economy now relies on keeping the housing boom going. Unfortunately this is -- ending.

Ending? Where specifically?

414 posted on 07/27/2005 8:56:34 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Dat

Yeah baby...Marx rules.

Next.....


415 posted on 07/27/2005 8:57:11 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Black Tooth

In the secondary markets where home sales have slowed. Then in the high dollar markets. It's a bubble, so it ends in a serious fashion when enough people say, "What the..." simultaneously.


416 posted on 07/27/2005 8:58:31 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: pfony1

"Professional and Business Services:
Architectural and Engineering Services: 1,334,300
employees, UP 76,000 from a year ago"

Ooooo...pencil-pushers, lawyers, H1B visa immigrant-filled jobs. One manufacturing job that can be converted to war production has more national worth than 10 of the above jobs. Assuming most of the increase isn't in temp jobs.


417 posted on 07/27/2005 9:06:45 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: durasell

Patrone.


418 posted on 07/27/2005 9:15:05 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: KevinDavis

You may be right...

An "economist", scorned, just might be furious enough to lose his objectivity.


419 posted on 07/27/2005 9:18:35 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: durasell

Actually...

that same June Employment report shows, on a separate line, "Construction" has 7,478,000 employees, UP 523,000 from 2004.

And last month's national sales figures show NO sign of a slowing real estate market. Local conditions may differ, of course...


420 posted on 07/27/2005 9:34:59 PM PDT by pfony1
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