Posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole
The horror . . . . How did we come to this???
I was in engineering school in the late 80s and early 90s, and it was pretty much understood that the school accepted so many foreigners simply because they didn't get "free rides" -- their governments paid most of their costs.
"Oh dont worry, our savor Hillary Clinton will rescue us! She is superwomen, she can do anything and she will save the USA!"
There is a Hillary-wannabe running for mayor of Cincinnati who is promising to create 10,000 jobs if she is elected! Ain't gonna happen, but I'm sure her deaf/dumb/blind constituents will believe her and walk right off that cliff!
I tell you all the terms are different. When other people ask question you dont know what they are talking about at first. You dont get everything the teacher is saying. Its acctually harder than you think. I also though math would be simple to understand, but it was harder than I thought. Marketing class was much easier. Acctually my hardest class was American Government. I had to look up as many as 3 words in some sentences. I remember looking up 150 words in two short chapters. It was a pain in the ass. Especially since I knew close to nothing coming into the class and all the terms could have been in Greek and it would not been a difference
I take it you've already made the foreigner over American choice in your own corporate facilities, Maria?
Don't forget the part where the senior executives then use that temporary boost to the bottom line to coast to better jobs elsewhere, leaving the mid- and lower-level employees to clean up the mess they made.
Do you think Roberts quoted the jobs report incorrectly?
Do you have a specific complaint, or do you just troll?
(Shrug) Perhaps defense industries are different from the economy in general. I suppose a case can be made that there should be more government involvement in vital defense industries than, say, the manufacturing of textiles.
That being said, that really doesn't translate to the manufacturing sector as a whole.
Ummmnnnhhh...
Wisconsin's State budget will be $27Bn in each of the next two years. We have about 4.5 million people residing here.
Consider yourself lucky, my man...
Higher education and its promotion is a giant scam.
But by all means, let's keep blaming the kids.
Okay. But the super-specialized defense industry is really completely different from the rest of the manufacturing sector. There are valid complaints about how the gov't is handling defense procurement, but that really has nothing to do with the rest of our manufacturing.
Whatever. You obviously are looking for someone to blame for all the problems in your life, and if they're a darkie from a foreign country, all the better.
Not necessarily. The items you see on the shelf are finished products, but "manufacturing" is involved in many different steps in the production process, and includes many things that don't appear on the shelves of your local stores.
Where do you think the shelves themselves -- and other components of a retail store -- are produced?
Even when not getting struck on the head, Chicken Little still runs around screaming, "They sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
"You are actually quite ignorant concerning what is happening in this country. I have a BS with honors in Computer Science (Engineering based), with Physics and Math "areas". I graduated in 1972, so I've been in the industry for over 30 years. I have four eight-foot bookshelves crammed with books about my trade ... and I have read them all. Yet, it is difficult to find a decent job in the field now."
Actually I know A LOT about Computer Science...and having multiple degrees and lots of books is no guarantee you'll find a decent job. As you probably already know, the computer industry is changing, literally, every day. And if you are going to keep up, you have to change, too.
A good friend of mine is making a bundle these days...he has NO degrees, learned how to take apart and put a computer back together on his kitchen table, and now works out of his house. He is ALSO a classic geek, more of a hermit than anything, but is also making quite a good living for himself and his family.
Life is about adapting; you learn to be a survivor by adapting and offering something to the public that has yet to be offered, then making us believe we can't live without your invention. Buggys and buggy whips are no longer relevant; now we can't live without our cars.
"Higher education and its promotion is a giant scam.
But by all means, let's keep blaming the kids."
Actually, higher education is a club. Almost anyone can join. I will admit, there are those that aren't suited for college, but there are also skilled trades available as a career.
Even with a BA, kids can get jobs that they would never get without a degree. My degree is in electronics, yet I am in a programming related field. And I have seen bigger "misfits" in terms of the field of work versus course of study.
As evil as I think offshoring is, there is still opportunity here. Get a degree, in anything, and be willing to work hard, and you'll be ok.
That's what I tell my kids, and I believe that.
YOU SAID..."Besides, who wants to bother those spoiled little Americans, just out of college, with their brains full of liberal mush...many of them are too busy wandering the malls and still trying "to find themselves"."
Do YOU yourself, have a technical degree(s) in science or engineering from a good AMERICAN University?
Are YOU familiar with a typical hard core technical curriculum...and the amount of work it takes to get a technical degree?
Do YOU make your money working in high tech?
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